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PTP across borders – Babel retold
Kenneth Hann, senior director, R&D, Oscilloquartz, ADVA
ITSF, Nov 2020
© 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.22
In the begining...
Clocks attempted time distribution to the heavens …
Each clock considered his protocol better than his fellows …
Then John said “since the industries cannot agree, we will grant them PTP profiles” …
(of PTP V2) ...
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Motivation and background
• PTP profiles are many (even within the same industry)
• Profiles (by definition) cannot directly interoperate
At the same time ...
• Equipment requires concurrent support for multiple profiles
• Customer cases require conversion between profiles
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Conversion between clocks and protocols
PTP – one protocol ”language” to represent time
Alternatives
Physical
clock
PPS SyncE 10MHz 2048kHz
Time
protocol
PTP NTP TOD (NMEA) IRIG-B
GNSS
Objective:
• Leverage PTP accuracy
• Protect investment with
existing NTP clients
Way forward:
• NTP/PTP gateway
• Enhancing NTP with
precise sync signal
(1PPS)
• Upgrading legacy
appliances with SFP GM
NTP migration – plug in accuracy
PTP to NTP conversion
Trade execution
NTP serverNTP client
NTP over
packet network
NTP
PTP
Migration
PTP slave
clock
NTP client
PTP grandmaster
synchronized from UTC
PTP over
packet network
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Slaves must adhere to a profile
PTP – clocks divided by a common protocol
Alternatives
Transport L2 L3 L2 VLAN0 Other
Packet
forwarding
Multicast Unicast Mixed
multicast/unicast
Time
processing
BC E2E TC P2P TC None
Clock
hierarcy
BMCA
(dynamic)
BMCA’ (dynamic) BMCA’ (static)
Profile
”details”
Message rates Domain numbers Clock class values Etc.
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How many PTP profiles?
https://sagroups.ieee.org/1588/ptp-profiles/
Profile Profile ID Main features
”Telecoms 2008” 00-1B-19-00-01-00 L3; based on default L3 profile
Telecoms G.8265.1 00-19-A7-00-01-00 L3; frequency only; high packet rates
Telecoms G.8275.1 00-19-A7-01-01-00 L2; full timing support from the network
Telecoms G.8275.2 00-19-A7-02-01-00 L3; partial timing support from the network
Enterprise 00-00-5E-00-01-00 L3; mixed multicast / unicast
IEEE Std 802.1AS 00-80-C2-00-01-00 L2; multicast; peer-peer
SMPTE Profile (2059-2) 68-97-E8-00-01-00 L3; multicast
AES67 00-0B-5E-00-01-00 L3; multicast
Power 1 (C37.238-2011) 1C-12-9D-00-00-00 L2; VLAN 0; multicast; peer-peer
Power 2 (C37.238.2017) 1C-12-9D-00-00-00 L2; VLAN 0; multicast; peer-peer
Power 3 (61850-9-3) 00-0C-CD-00-01-x0 L2; multicast; peer-peer
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Identifying profiles – on the wire
A bit more challenging
Bits Octets
7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
clockType 2
physicalLayerProtocol L
physicalAddressLength 2
physicalAddress S
protocolAddress N
manufacturerIdentity 3
Reserved 1
productDescription P
revisionData Q
userDescription R
profileIdentity 6
Pad M
CLOCK DESCRIPTION TLV
• Uniquely identifies profile using profileID
But …
• PTP management TLV
• Not supported by most profiles
Profiles are usually configured per (virtual) port
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Supporting multiple applications/profiles
PTP
G.8265.1
PTP/NTP
enterprise
PTP
G.8275.2
PTP
G.8275.1
2G/3G/4G/
5G FDD BS
DOCSIS 3.1
and small cells
and APTS
MIFID ii
5G/LTE
TDD/LTE-A BS
and small cells
PTP Power
61850-9-3/
C37.238
Power utilities
PTP
broadcast
Studio
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Master may support multiple PTP profiles
But ...
M A M B
S BS A
S A S B
M A; B
1) Slaves can’t request a
specific profile
2) Networks may limit
profile connectivity
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Boundary clock function is needed for profile conversion
PHY
MAC
IP
PTP
G.8275.2
PHY
MAC
Physical clock
PTP
G.8275.1
BC as PTP profile convertor
Slave
Master
Master Slave
ITU telecom to power profile conversion
PTP
Telecom Profile
G.8265.1
G.8275.1
Event
recorder
IRIG B
Protection schemes
Remote
terminal
unit (RTU)
IRIG-B bus
1PPS
ADM
DS1/E1
G.703
9/13
GNSS
primary
Protection
relay
PMU
Alarm
annunciator
Substation
gateway
QOS
meter
Substation
switch
61850 LAN
 PTP
IEEE C37.118
 NTP
RELAY ROOM Core PTP GM
PTP
secondary
Cesium clock
Telecom core
M A
S A S B
Supporting multiple profiles (even on same physical port)
Add BC (or GM + APTS)
With no loss in accuracy
M A
S A S B
BC A->B
BC A->B
TC A; B
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Real world application - broadcast studio
GM SMPTE S G.8275.1
TC G.8275.1; SMPTE
TC SMPTE
S SMPTE
1. GNSS as a primary reference
2. PTP as a backup (G.8275.1) – no VLAN
3. GM – SMPTE, with one VLAN
GM G.8275.1
Adding multiple profile support with a plug
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Conclusions
1) The PTP Babel problem:
• So many profiles ...
• Increasingly interconnected
2) Practical solutions:
• Multi-profile capable GMs
• TC is enabler for multi-profile networks
• Pluggable devices can retrofit profile translation
Thank you
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PTP across borders: Babel retold

  • 1. PTP across borders – Babel retold Kenneth Hann, senior director, R&D, Oscilloquartz, ADVA ITSF, Nov 2020
  • 2. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.22 In the begining... Clocks attempted time distribution to the heavens … Each clock considered his protocol better than his fellows … Then John said “since the industries cannot agree, we will grant them PTP profiles” … (of PTP V2) ...
  • 3. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.33 Motivation and background • PTP profiles are many (even within the same industry) • Profiles (by definition) cannot directly interoperate At the same time ... • Equipment requires concurrent support for multiple profiles • Customer cases require conversion between profiles
  • 4. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.44 Conversion between clocks and protocols PTP – one protocol ”language” to represent time Alternatives Physical clock PPS SyncE 10MHz 2048kHz Time protocol PTP NTP TOD (NMEA) IRIG-B GNSS
  • 5. Objective: • Leverage PTP accuracy • Protect investment with existing NTP clients Way forward: • NTP/PTP gateway • Enhancing NTP with precise sync signal (1PPS) • Upgrading legacy appliances with SFP GM NTP migration – plug in accuracy PTP to NTP conversion Trade execution NTP serverNTP client NTP over packet network NTP PTP Migration PTP slave clock NTP client PTP grandmaster synchronized from UTC PTP over packet network
  • 6. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.66 Slaves must adhere to a profile PTP – clocks divided by a common protocol Alternatives Transport L2 L3 L2 VLAN0 Other Packet forwarding Multicast Unicast Mixed multicast/unicast Time processing BC E2E TC P2P TC None Clock hierarcy BMCA (dynamic) BMCA’ (dynamic) BMCA’ (static) Profile ”details” Message rates Domain numbers Clock class values Etc.
  • 7. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.77 How many PTP profiles? https://sagroups.ieee.org/1588/ptp-profiles/ Profile Profile ID Main features ”Telecoms 2008” 00-1B-19-00-01-00 L3; based on default L3 profile Telecoms G.8265.1 00-19-A7-00-01-00 L3; frequency only; high packet rates Telecoms G.8275.1 00-19-A7-01-01-00 L2; full timing support from the network Telecoms G.8275.2 00-19-A7-02-01-00 L3; partial timing support from the network Enterprise 00-00-5E-00-01-00 L3; mixed multicast / unicast IEEE Std 802.1AS 00-80-C2-00-01-00 L2; multicast; peer-peer SMPTE Profile (2059-2) 68-97-E8-00-01-00 L3; multicast AES67 00-0B-5E-00-01-00 L3; multicast Power 1 (C37.238-2011) 1C-12-9D-00-00-00 L2; VLAN 0; multicast; peer-peer Power 2 (C37.238.2017) 1C-12-9D-00-00-00 L2; VLAN 0; multicast; peer-peer Power 3 (61850-9-3) 00-0C-CD-00-01-x0 L2; multicast; peer-peer
  • 8. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.88 Identifying profiles – on the wire A bit more challenging Bits Octets 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 clockType 2 physicalLayerProtocol L physicalAddressLength 2 physicalAddress S protocolAddress N manufacturerIdentity 3 Reserved 1 productDescription P revisionData Q userDescription R profileIdentity 6 Pad M CLOCK DESCRIPTION TLV • Uniquely identifies profile using profileID But … • PTP management TLV • Not supported by most profiles Profiles are usually configured per (virtual) port
  • 9. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.99 Supporting multiple applications/profiles PTP G.8265.1 PTP/NTP enterprise PTP G.8275.2 PTP G.8275.1 2G/3G/4G/ 5G FDD BS DOCSIS 3.1 and small cells and APTS MIFID ii 5G/LTE TDD/LTE-A BS and small cells PTP Power 61850-9-3/ C37.238 Power utilities PTP broadcast Studio
  • 10. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.1010 Master may support multiple PTP profiles But ... M A M B S BS A S A S B M A; B 1) Slaves can’t request a specific profile 2) Networks may limit profile connectivity
  • 11. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.1111 Boundary clock function is needed for profile conversion PHY MAC IP PTP G.8275.2 PHY MAC Physical clock PTP G.8275.1 BC as PTP profile convertor Slave Master Master Slave
  • 12. ITU telecom to power profile conversion PTP Telecom Profile G.8265.1 G.8275.1 Event recorder IRIG B Protection schemes Remote terminal unit (RTU) IRIG-B bus 1PPS ADM DS1/E1 G.703 9/13 GNSS primary Protection relay PMU Alarm annunciator Substation gateway QOS meter Substation switch 61850 LAN  PTP IEEE C37.118  NTP RELAY ROOM Core PTP GM PTP secondary Cesium clock Telecom core
  • 13. M A S A S B Supporting multiple profiles (even on same physical port) Add BC (or GM + APTS) With no loss in accuracy M A S A S B BC A->B BC A->B TC A; B
  • 14. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.1414 Real world application - broadcast studio GM SMPTE S G.8275.1 TC G.8275.1; SMPTE TC SMPTE S SMPTE 1. GNSS as a primary reference 2. PTP as a backup (G.8275.1) – no VLAN 3. GM – SMPTE, with one VLAN GM G.8275.1 Adding multiple profile support with a plug
  • 15. © 2020 ADVA. All rights reserved. Confidential.1515 Conclusions 1) The PTP Babel problem: • So many profiles ... • Increasingly interconnected 2) Practical solutions: • Multi-profile capable GMs • TC is enabler for multi-profile networks • Pluggable devices can retrofit profile translation