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Leading Your DevOps Enterprise Journey
Gene Kim
DevOps: Continuous Delivery
@realgenekim
#CAWorldAuthor, Researcher, Speaker,
DevOps Enthusiast
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Abstract
Gene Kim, an award winning CTO, researcher
and DevOps author will share his top learnings
on how effective leaders are driving DevOps
change, as well as the skills he believes every
technology leader needs to help their
organizations survive and win in the
marketplace.
Gene Kim
Author, Researcher,
DevOps Enthusiast
4 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD
Agenda
THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL
THERE IS A BETTER WAY
CLOSING
HIGH PERFORMERS
DEVOPS ENTERPRISE SUMMIT LEARNINGS
4 REQUIRED CAPABILITIES FOR TECHNOLOGY LEADERS
1
2
3
4
5
6
@RealGeneKim
The Downward
Spiral…
@RealGeneKim
IT Ops And Dev At War
6
@RealGeneKim
@RealGeneKim
@RealGeneKim
@RealGeneKim
There Is A Better Way:
Google, Amazon, Netflix,
Spotify, Etsy, Spotify, Twitter,
Facebook…
@RealGeneKim
There Is A Better Way:
Walmart, Verizon, Raytheon,
Target, Nordstrom,
U.S. Dept of Homeland
Security…
@RealGeneKim
High Performers Are More Agile
30x 200x
more frequent
deployments
faster lead times
than their peers
Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report
@RealGeneKim
High Performers Are More Reliable
60x 168x
the change
success rate
faster mean time
to recover (MTTR)
Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report
@RealGeneKim
High Performers Win In The Marketplace
2x 50%more likely to
exceed profitability,
market share &
productivity goals
higher market
capitalization growth
over 3 years*
Source: Puppet Labs 2014 State Of DevOps
@RealGeneKimSource: John Jenkins, Amazon.com (2011)
Amazon 2010:
~15K deploys/day
@RealGeneKim
Amazon 2015:
136K deploys/day
Source: Ken Exner, Director of Dev Resources, Amazon.com (2015)
@RealGeneKim
“deploys / day”
“deploys / day / dev”
@RealGeneKim
High (linear)
Low
Med
Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report
deploys/day
# of developers
@RealGeneKim
The Three Ways
@RealGeneKim
DevOps Enterprise Summit
Learnings
@RealGeneKim
The most popular and talked-about
presentation at DevOps Enterprise 2014?
Mark Schwartz, CIO,
US Citizenship and Immigration Services,
Department of Homeland Security
@RealGeneKim
DevOps Enterprise Summit
 On Oct 19-21, we held the second DevOps
Enterprise Summit, a conference for horses, by
horses
 Speakers included fifty leaders from:
 Macy’s, Disney, Target, GE Capital, Western Union, Sherwin
Williams, Blackboard, Nordstrom, Telstra, US Department of
Homeland Security, CSG, Raytheon, IBM, Ticketmaster,
MITRE, Marks and Spencer, Barclays Capital, Microsoft,
Nationwide Insurance, Capital One, Gov.UK, Fidelity, Rally
Software, Neustar, Walmart, PNC, ADP, …
@RealGeneKim
Observations
 They were using the same technical practices and getting the
same sort of metrics as the unicorns
 Target: 10+ deploys per day, < 10 incidents per month
 Capital One: 100s of deploys per day, lead time of minutes
 Macy’s: 1,500 manual tests every 10 days, now 100Ks automated
tests run daily
 Disney: Has embedded nearly 100 Ops engineers into LOB teams
across the enterprise
 Nationwide Insurance: Retirement Plans app (COBOL on mainframe)
 Raytheon: testing and certification from months to a day
 Verizon: decoupled the in-store systems connected to 700 backend
SoRs
 US CIS: security and compliance testing run every code commit
@RealGeneKim
Observations
 The transformation stories are among the most
courageous I’ve ever heard –
 Often the transformation leader was putting themselves
in personal jeopardy
 Why? Absolute clarity and conviction that it was the
right thing for the organization
@RealGeneKim
Observations
 The transformation stories are among the most
courageous I’ve ever heard –
 Often the transformation leader was putting themselves
in personal jeopardy
 Why? Absolute clarity and conviction that it was the
right thing for the organization
@RealGeneKim
Chivas Nambiar, Verizon
@RealGeneKim
Organizational Adoption
 Create a dedicated team
 Pick an initial value stream
 Green vs. brown field
 System of record vs. system of engagement
 Sufficiently large win potential
 Organize the team by value stream, not by areas of
functional expertise
 Re-imagining the next-generation IT Operations organization
 Shared services around platforms, testing, deployment, monitoring
@RealGeneKim
Other Side Of Innovation
28
@RealGeneKim
Heather Mickman, Target, Inc.
 Abolished the TEP-LARB process
 As a result, she won the Lifetime Achievement
Award from her grateful team
@RealGeneKim
Capital One: DevOpsSec
Source: Tapabrata Pal, Capital One
@RealGeneKim
An ATM Story…
@RealGeneKim
Top Identified Challenges
 Creating automated tests for legacy applications
 Culture and leadership issues
 Roles and responsibilities
 Information security and compliance
 Metrics to drive DevOps adoption
@RealGeneKim
Four Required Capabilities For
Technology Leaders
@RealGeneKim
Dr. Steve Spear
34
@RealGeneKim
35
@RealGeneKim
Dr. Steven Spear
“While designing perfectly safe systems is
likely beyond our abilities, safe systems are
close to achievable” when the four following
conditions are met…
Source: Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
Capability 1
 See problems as they occur:
 Complex work is managed so that problems in design
are revealed
 They see problems as they occur, through relentless
testing of assumptions
Automated testing in the deployment pipeline,
proactive monitoring of the production environment, …
Source: Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
Pervasive Production Telemetry
“Having a
developer add a
monitoring metric
shouldn’t feel like
a schema
change.”
– John Allspaw,
SVP Tech Ops,
Etsy
@RealGeneKim
39
People actually look at the logs!
(Mention Verizon PCI Data Breach Study)
@RealGeneKim
Capability 2
 Swarming and solving problems as they are seen
to build new knowledge
 Problems that are seen are solved so that new
knowledge is built quickly
 Improvement of daily work is prioritized above daily
work
Stopping work when builds, tests, deployments and services break,
enabling fast feedback loops, especially to Dev…
Source: Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
"Automated tests transform fear into boredom."
-- Eran Messeri, Google
Google Dev And Ops (2013)
 15,000 engineers, working on 4,000+ projects
 All code is checked into one source tree
(billions of files!)
 5,500 code commits/day
 75 million test cases are run daily
@RealGeneKim
Capability 3
 Spreading new knowledge throughout the
organization
 The new discovery of local knowledge and
improvements are turned into global improvements,
shared throughout the organization
 Learning is fed back into the system to prevent future
failures
High trust culture, blameless post-mortems when things go wrong,
single source code repositories enterprise-wide, …
Source: Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
Capability 4
 Leading by developing
 The job of leaders is not to command and control, but
to create other capable leaders who can perpetuate this
system of work
Source: Dr. Steven Spear
“My goal is not to direct and control, but to guide and enable”
@RealGeneKim
“Culture isn’t just touchy-feely kumbahyah. Instead,
it is the consistent response by a group of people
to conditions. When we change culture, we
fundamentally shift how people respond to a
situation.
– Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
One Of The Highest Predictors Of
Performance
Source: Typology Of Organizational Culture (Westrum, 2004)
@RealGeneKim
One Of The Highest Predictors Of
Performance
Source: Typology Of Organizational Culture (Westrum, 2004)
@RealGeneKim
“The most effective way is for senior leaders to
change the conversation from ‘did you carry your
orders out?’ to ‘what did you learn today?’ ”
– Dr. Steven Spear
@RealGeneKim
From Afar: The “Big Bang”
Source: Damon Edwards (@damonedwards)
Start
Finish
@RealGeneKim
In Reality: The “Big Bang”
Source: Damon Edwards (@damonedwards)
Start
Finish
@RealGeneKim
Inject Failures Often
@RealGeneKim
You Don’t Choose Chaos Monkey…
Chaos Monkey Chooses You
@RealGeneKim
The 2014 AWS Reboot
“When we got the news about the emergency EC2
reboots, our jaws dropped. When we got the list of
how many Cassandra nodes would be affected, I
felt ill.
– Christos Kalantzis
Netflix Cloud DB Engineering
“Then I remembered all the Chaos Monkey
exercises we’ve gone through. My reaction
was, ‘Bring it on!’”
Source: http://techblog.netflix.com/2014/10/a-state-of-xen-chaos-monkey-cassandra.html
@RealGeneKim
The 2014 AWS Reboot
“Out of our 2700+ production Cassandra nodes,
218 were rebooted. 22 Cassandra nodes did not
reboot successfully.
“Netflix customers experienced no downtime that
weekend.”
– Bruce Wong
Netflix Chaos Engineering
@RealGeneKim
Why Do I Think This Is
Important?
@RealGeneKim
The Downward
Spiral…
@RealGeneKim
Opportunity Cost Of
Wasted IT Spending?
$2,600,000,000,000.00 per year
($2.6 Trillion US)
@RealGeneKim
@RealGeneKim
“This book will have a profound effect on IT,
just as The Goal did for manufacturing.”
–Jez Humble,
co-author Continuous Delivery
“This is the IT swamp draining manual for
anyone who is neck deep in alligators.”
–Adrian Cockroft,
Cloud Architect at Netflix
“This is The Goal for our decade,
and is for any IT professional who wants
their life back.”
–Charles Betz, IT architect, author
“Architecture and Patterns for IT”
@RealGeneKim
Free Phoenix Project Books:
DevOps Theater 3 at 11:30am!
To receive the following:
 A copy of this presentation
 Videos and slides from DevOps Enterprise 2014 & 2015
 The 140 page excerpt of The Phoenix Project
 One hour excerpt of The Phoenix Project audiobook
 Link to the DevOps Audit Defense Toolkit
 See early drafts of our upcoming DevOps Handbook
Just pick up your phone, and send an email:
To: realgenekim@SendYourSlides.com
Subject: devops
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devops
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Q & A
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Book Signing & Meet-Greet
 Theater 3 Expo Area
 Today – Right now!
 11:30am to 12:30pm
 200 books now
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– George Spafford – Signing
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Leading Your DevOps Enterprise Journey

  • 1. Leading Your DevOps Enterprise Journey Gene Kim DevOps: Continuous Delivery @realgenekim #CAWorldAuthor, Researcher, Speaker, DevOps Enthusiast DO4T03S
  • 2. 2 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD © 2015 CA. All rights reserved. All trademarks referenced herein belong to their respective companies. The content provided in this CA World 2015 presentation is intended for informational purposes only and does not form any type of warranty. The information provided by a CA partner and/or CA customer has not been reviewed for accuracy by CA. For Informational Purposes Only Terms of this Presentation
  • 3. 3 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Abstract Gene Kim, an award winning CTO, researcher and DevOps author will share his top learnings on how effective leaders are driving DevOps change, as well as the skills he believes every technology leader needs to help their organizations survive and win in the marketplace. Gene Kim Author, Researcher, DevOps Enthusiast
  • 4. 4 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Agenda THE DOWNWARD SPIRAL THERE IS A BETTER WAY CLOSING HIGH PERFORMERS DEVOPS ENTERPRISE SUMMIT LEARNINGS 4 REQUIRED CAPABILITIES FOR TECHNOLOGY LEADERS 1 2 3 4 5 6
  • 6. @RealGeneKim IT Ops And Dev At War 6
  • 10. @RealGeneKim There Is A Better Way: Google, Amazon, Netflix, Spotify, Etsy, Spotify, Twitter, Facebook…
  • 11. @RealGeneKim There Is A Better Way: Walmart, Verizon, Raytheon, Target, Nordstrom, U.S. Dept of Homeland Security…
  • 12. @RealGeneKim High Performers Are More Agile 30x 200x more frequent deployments faster lead times than their peers Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report
  • 13. @RealGeneKim High Performers Are More Reliable 60x 168x the change success rate faster mean time to recover (MTTR) Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report
  • 14. @RealGeneKim High Performers Win In The Marketplace 2x 50%more likely to exceed profitability, market share & productivity goals higher market capitalization growth over 3 years* Source: Puppet Labs 2014 State Of DevOps
  • 15. @RealGeneKimSource: John Jenkins, Amazon.com (2011) Amazon 2010: ~15K deploys/day
  • 16. @RealGeneKim Amazon 2015: 136K deploys/day Source: Ken Exner, Director of Dev Resources, Amazon.com (2015)
  • 18. @RealGeneKim High (linear) Low Med Source: Puppet Labs 2015 State Of DevOps: https://puppetlabs.com/2015-devops-report deploys/day # of developers
  • 21. @RealGeneKim The most popular and talked-about presentation at DevOps Enterprise 2014? Mark Schwartz, CIO, US Citizenship and Immigration Services, Department of Homeland Security
  • 22. @RealGeneKim DevOps Enterprise Summit  On Oct 19-21, we held the second DevOps Enterprise Summit, a conference for horses, by horses  Speakers included fifty leaders from:  Macy’s, Disney, Target, GE Capital, Western Union, Sherwin Williams, Blackboard, Nordstrom, Telstra, US Department of Homeland Security, CSG, Raytheon, IBM, Ticketmaster, MITRE, Marks and Spencer, Barclays Capital, Microsoft, Nationwide Insurance, Capital One, Gov.UK, Fidelity, Rally Software, Neustar, Walmart, PNC, ADP, …
  • 23. @RealGeneKim Observations  They were using the same technical practices and getting the same sort of metrics as the unicorns  Target: 10+ deploys per day, < 10 incidents per month  Capital One: 100s of deploys per day, lead time of minutes  Macy’s: 1,500 manual tests every 10 days, now 100Ks automated tests run daily  Disney: Has embedded nearly 100 Ops engineers into LOB teams across the enterprise  Nationwide Insurance: Retirement Plans app (COBOL on mainframe)  Raytheon: testing and certification from months to a day  Verizon: decoupled the in-store systems connected to 700 backend SoRs  US CIS: security and compliance testing run every code commit
  • 24. @RealGeneKim Observations  The transformation stories are among the most courageous I’ve ever heard –  Often the transformation leader was putting themselves in personal jeopardy  Why? Absolute clarity and conviction that it was the right thing for the organization
  • 25. @RealGeneKim Observations  The transformation stories are among the most courageous I’ve ever heard –  Often the transformation leader was putting themselves in personal jeopardy  Why? Absolute clarity and conviction that it was the right thing for the organization
  • 27. @RealGeneKim Organizational Adoption  Create a dedicated team  Pick an initial value stream  Green vs. brown field  System of record vs. system of engagement  Sufficiently large win potential  Organize the team by value stream, not by areas of functional expertise  Re-imagining the next-generation IT Operations organization  Shared services around platforms, testing, deployment, monitoring
  • 28. @RealGeneKim Other Side Of Innovation 28
  • 29. @RealGeneKim Heather Mickman, Target, Inc.  Abolished the TEP-LARB process  As a result, she won the Lifetime Achievement Award from her grateful team
  • 30. @RealGeneKim Capital One: DevOpsSec Source: Tapabrata Pal, Capital One
  • 32. @RealGeneKim Top Identified Challenges  Creating automated tests for legacy applications  Culture and leadership issues  Roles and responsibilities  Information security and compliance  Metrics to drive DevOps adoption
  • 33. @RealGeneKim Four Required Capabilities For Technology Leaders
  • 36. @RealGeneKim Dr. Steven Spear “While designing perfectly safe systems is likely beyond our abilities, safe systems are close to achievable” when the four following conditions are met… Source: Dr. Steven Spear
  • 37. @RealGeneKim Capability 1  See problems as they occur:  Complex work is managed so that problems in design are revealed  They see problems as they occur, through relentless testing of assumptions Automated testing in the deployment pipeline, proactive monitoring of the production environment, … Source: Dr. Steven Spear
  • 38. @RealGeneKim Pervasive Production Telemetry “Having a developer add a monitoring metric shouldn’t feel like a schema change.” – John Allspaw, SVP Tech Ops, Etsy
  • 39. @RealGeneKim 39 People actually look at the logs! (Mention Verizon PCI Data Breach Study)
  • 40. @RealGeneKim Capability 2  Swarming and solving problems as they are seen to build new knowledge  Problems that are seen are solved so that new knowledge is built quickly  Improvement of daily work is prioritized above daily work Stopping work when builds, tests, deployments and services break, enabling fast feedback loops, especially to Dev… Source: Dr. Steven Spear
  • 41. @RealGeneKim "Automated tests transform fear into boredom." -- Eran Messeri, Google Google Dev And Ops (2013)  15,000 engineers, working on 4,000+ projects  All code is checked into one source tree (billions of files!)  5,500 code commits/day  75 million test cases are run daily
  • 42. @RealGeneKim Capability 3  Spreading new knowledge throughout the organization  The new discovery of local knowledge and improvements are turned into global improvements, shared throughout the organization  Learning is fed back into the system to prevent future failures High trust culture, blameless post-mortems when things go wrong, single source code repositories enterprise-wide, … Source: Dr. Steven Spear
  • 43. @RealGeneKim Capability 4  Leading by developing  The job of leaders is not to command and control, but to create other capable leaders who can perpetuate this system of work Source: Dr. Steven Spear “My goal is not to direct and control, but to guide and enable”
  • 44. @RealGeneKim “Culture isn’t just touchy-feely kumbahyah. Instead, it is the consistent response by a group of people to conditions. When we change culture, we fundamentally shift how people respond to a situation. – Dr. Steven Spear
  • 45. @RealGeneKim One Of The Highest Predictors Of Performance Source: Typology Of Organizational Culture (Westrum, 2004)
  • 46. @RealGeneKim One Of The Highest Predictors Of Performance Source: Typology Of Organizational Culture (Westrum, 2004)
  • 47. @RealGeneKim “The most effective way is for senior leaders to change the conversation from ‘did you carry your orders out?’ to ‘what did you learn today?’ ” – Dr. Steven Spear
  • 48. @RealGeneKim From Afar: The “Big Bang” Source: Damon Edwards (@damonedwards) Start Finish
  • 49. @RealGeneKim In Reality: The “Big Bang” Source: Damon Edwards (@damonedwards) Start Finish
  • 51. @RealGeneKim You Don’t Choose Chaos Monkey… Chaos Monkey Chooses You
  • 52. @RealGeneKim The 2014 AWS Reboot “When we got the news about the emergency EC2 reboots, our jaws dropped. When we got the list of how many Cassandra nodes would be affected, I felt ill. – Christos Kalantzis Netflix Cloud DB Engineering “Then I remembered all the Chaos Monkey exercises we’ve gone through. My reaction was, ‘Bring it on!’” Source: http://techblog.netflix.com/2014/10/a-state-of-xen-chaos-monkey-cassandra.html
  • 53. @RealGeneKim The 2014 AWS Reboot “Out of our 2700+ production Cassandra nodes, 218 were rebooted. 22 Cassandra nodes did not reboot successfully. “Netflix customers experienced no downtime that weekend.” – Bruce Wong Netflix Chaos Engineering
  • 54. @RealGeneKim Why Do I Think This Is Important?
  • 56. @RealGeneKim Opportunity Cost Of Wasted IT Spending? $2,600,000,000,000.00 per year ($2.6 Trillion US)
  • 58. @RealGeneKim “This book will have a profound effect on IT, just as The Goal did for manufacturing.” –Jez Humble, co-author Continuous Delivery “This is the IT swamp draining manual for anyone who is neck deep in alligators.” –Adrian Cockroft, Cloud Architect at Netflix “This is The Goal for our decade, and is for any IT professional who wants their life back.” –Charles Betz, IT architect, author “Architecture and Patterns for IT”
  • 59. @RealGeneKim Free Phoenix Project Books: DevOps Theater 3 at 11:30am! To receive the following:  A copy of this presentation  Videos and slides from DevOps Enterprise 2014 & 2015  The 140 page excerpt of The Phoenix Project  One hour excerpt of The Phoenix Project audiobook  Link to the DevOps Audit Defense Toolkit  See early drafts of our upcoming DevOps Handbook Just pick up your phone, and send an email: To: realgenekim@SendYourSlides.com Subject: devops realgenekim@SendYourSlides.com devops
  • 60. 60 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Q & A
  • 61. 61 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Book Signing & Meet-Greet  Theater 3 Expo Area  Today – Right now!  11:30am to 12:30pm  200 books now  200 + in theater 5 area – George Spafford – Signing – After his keynote
  • 62. 62 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Recommended Sessions SESSION # TITLE DATE/TIME DO3T20S AutoTrader Applies a "Patton and Gandhi" Approach to Optimize Its DevOps Adoption Curve and Communications to Drive Consensus 11/19/2015 at 1:00 pm DO3X118S The Why, Where and How of Service Virtualization Adoption 11/19/2015 at 2:00 pm DO3X114S Freeing the World from Slow: How Service Virtualization and the Concept of S.P.E.E.D. 11/19/2015 at 3:45 pm
  • 63. 63 © 2015 CA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.@CAWORLD #CAWORLD Must See Demos Application Test Demo Create Better Application Tests Theater 4 DevOps Sim DevOps Simulation Experience Theater 3 Continuous App Insight Automate Tests for Better Apps Theater 4 Service Virtualization Deliver Better Apps Faster with SV Theater 3
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