This document summarizes a conversation between Valeria Maltoni and Mario Vellandi about behavioral analysis and its application in retail. Vellandi discusses how smaller consumer goods companies do limited behavioral research but focus on giving retailers product options. Observation of competing products and testing are also important. Online tools can help manage research but human analysis is still needed. Stores like Nordstrom, Anthropologie, and Best Buy are highlighted for their employee and customer experiences. Bookstores are discussed as new community spaces.
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Social Science as Applied to Commerce
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Social Science as Applied
to Commerce
Ask(?)Away is a candid conversation between two people published on a
blog. This transcript includes comments from the readers and space for your
notes. Our fourth guest in this format at Conversation Agent is Mario Vellandi
of Melodies in Marketing.
Valeria Maltoni: I used to interact with my TV, except for nobody knew about it
because all it meant was me giving my opinion to a screen with no way to send the
comment. Maybe some of you are smiling here, have you done the same? Have you
responded to a talking head on TV during an interview muttering your two cents?
They couldnāt hear you, could they? That is changing. One need only think about the
many ways we can now provide feedback in real time -ā online and off line. How is
our new focus on customization and personalization shaping the retail industry, for
example?
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Recently, I asked Mario Vellandi who blogs
at Melodies in Marketing a simple question
independent contractors.
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-- what are you passionate about? The Valeria Maltoni: A while back we met with a
conversation that ensued between us was group of analysts of cultural behavior -- the
inspiring. We talked about personalization, Center for Cultural Studies and Analysis. We had
buying behavior, and choices -- and the role the most fascinating conversation about the
marketing plays in helping provide them. āSeven Shoulds or Seven Things all Americans
Believe inā and I recall checking out their age
Mario Vellandi: Well, I am a very curious chart that delineates behavior when in group.
person about many of lifeās pleasures the They do a lot of work for the entertainment
humanities has to offer, but it is social science industry. They study behavior to help those
applied to commerce where I am most companies design great experiences.
fascinated. What I mean by that is, how do
people naturally behave in particular contexts In your work with consumer good companies,
and how are they inļ¬uenced? Ultimately, weāre how much emphasis do they put into research
humans not consumers. We donāt like to just and behavioral-based analysis? How are
feed the seemingly insatiable self. I think most the results utilized for product and service
of us also like to interact, play, enjoy, share, development?
and importantly: relax and be content.
Mario Vellandi: Well, you kind of stumped
Where does this leave me? Marketing and me because that was an interesting website and
Experience Design is probably the answer. I had to think about how to respond.
For what industry? Mostly consumer Iāve worked with a few consumer goods
product goods, although I do like to keep companies, but they were relatively small
an open eye for interesting small projects (<$60 million). The categories were food,
involving nonproļ¬ts or other consultants and beauty care, and home decor. Behavioral
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research at these ļ¬rms was quite limited to
hypotheses and personal preferences among
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may not be that important. Instead, giving
the retail buyer (aka Category Manager) a
employees. However, we did have excellent product theyāll love is far more important.
designers who knew their materials well That option is oftentimes not available
and how to concept new products quickly. though. It takes excellent sourcing abilities,
Management of course wanted to make ļ¬exible manufacturing options, and an internal
products that actual shoppers would buy. company culture that is devoted to serving the
So we would all go competitive shopping customersā wants. That is one very difļ¬cult
and analyze what we saw on the shelves at cookie with a long bake-time.
various retail establishments, upscale and
downscale, and took note of what products But I donāt want to underestimate the
seemed to have a higher velocity based on the importance of testing. A product may look
comparative number of units on shelf, among good, but may perform poorly with extended
many other factors. use. I liked one companyās innovative candles,
but noticed when I tried out a square-shaped
Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, we candle at home; the burn diameter was large
made it a priority to give the retail buyer the enough to start leak wax out of the sides, thus
option to customize the product to their liking making a mess. I told a couple people about
(naturally limiting the amount of ļ¬exibility it, but they said they do test all their products.
to their relative purchasing power). For the I didnāt buy that excuse because the wick size
largest retailers, it wouldnāt be uncommon for on the ļ¬nal product looked exactly the same as
us to turn around a new concept with pricing, the concept candle.
photo, and a sample shipped within 24-48
hours. ā¼
Depending on the product category, CK highlighted the importance of looking
sometimes actual consumer behavioral analysis to human behavior/ inļ¬uences/instinct in
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marketing. What I ļ¬nd additionally interesting is how
participants may be more candid and open
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Observation is important, yet if a product if the tools are designed to easily ļ¬t into
does not deliver on its promise, if it looks participantsā lifestyles and schedules. But
good, but performs poorly, you need to ultimately, I think theyāre just tools and arenāt a
know that as well. So what about combining panacea for everything. Research projects still
observation with testing? In other words, must be well deļ¬ned and related to a particular
letting users tell you about their experience. strategy, planned and executed. Data has to
be collected, analyzed, and converted into
āŗ (continued) actionable intelligence. We need apt humans
for all that right-brain thinking.
Valeria Maltoni: Did you do any online
testing? For example, I met the founder of Product/Service design (content, packaging,
KDA Research and learned that they do a lot price) is just one piece of the larger behavioral
of qualitative research using new media. Do analysis pie though. Thereās environmental
you see technologies that can make it cheaper studies for online and ofļ¬ine purchasing
to put in the hands of consumers not real environments. After recently reading Why
but virtual products as helpful for behavioral we Buy by Paco Underhill, I got an immense
analysis? appreciation for how merchandising and store
design affect shoppersā behavior.
Mario Vellandi: I think software tools can
be extremely helpful in managing the data [from the comment section Mario added]
(collection, sharing, disseminating) and At my previous employers, we had some key
the project (planning, task assignments, individuals who performed research into
milestones) with multiple parties: end-users, fads and trends in the marketplace, then
sales channel providers, and research team organized this info into lifestyle proļ¬les.
members. This environmental scanning was a constant
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process. But this was just one element of a
larger organization-wide product ideation
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Anthropologie does that in their stores. I wrote
about it not long ago. What other stores do
process that included our shopping trips. that well and why?
Fads and trends have life cycles of their own Mario Vellandi: Although Iām not a lady, Iāve
that when understood, will qualify the degree heard marvelous things about the service at
of opportunity for each retail channel. [Btw, Nordstrom dept. store. I think the common
CK has a great white paper about fads/trends on thread between this chain, Anthropologie
her website.] Training your salespeople in & Urban Outļ¬tters, and other successful
this info improves their communication with establishments is that they put their focus
buyers and relationships they build. on the staff ļ¬rst, not the customer. After
all, employees represent the company to the
Allow me to stress that very last sentence. customer every day. If they feel good about
Relationships matter. If you want to be their employer and the way theyāre treated, it
remembered next season for at least a meeting will reļ¬ect in their performance and service to
or presentation, you have to build customer the customer. In saying this, I almost sense a
intimacy into your organizationās culture and ļ¬ashback to Made to Stick. The companies are
the mindset of your salespeople. This requires taking care of their troops and giving them
looking out for the buyerās interests in regards the commanderās intent, but not the explicit
to product ļ¬t, assortment, price points, tactics. There are general company guidelines
margin, and # of units on shelf. and of course performance metrics to be
met as a matter of maintaining service levels.
Valeria Maltoni: As much as weād like people But the trust in execution is placed in the
to tell us, I think there is also the consideration employees.
that we often say one thing and do another.
Observing in the context of the purchase Did you know that Walgreens has fewer
is a great way to do a reality check. I think stores than CVS (nationās largest drugstore),
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but beats them in sales? Although there are
differing reasons for their overall success,
feels awesome.
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as outlined in Good to Great, Iāll explain one. Letās hear it from you ā what are your
Walgreens caught on quickly that many favorite stores? Why?
shoppers came in wanting beverages and
snacks (which give good margin), so they ā¼
increased their exposure to these categories
Carolyn Ann: My favorite store is the Borders
and transformed the store into a mix of a
in Wilmington, Delaware. Lots of choice,
convenience, general, and drugstore. In the
good coffee served near the magazines and
mind of shoppers, they were no longer just
the bathrooms! (Barnes & Noble put the
another drugstore that sells health, beauty,
bathrooms elsewhere, usually forcing you walk
personal care and pharmaceuticals along
through the store. An usually trivial point, but
with stationary, photo services and a couple
it can be important!)
other product categories. And that unique
positioning was powerful magic for Walgreens My least favorite is also a Borders: the
because now shoppers wouldnāt necessarily one in central Philadelphia. Itās got a great
think ļ¬rst of 7-11 or the supermarket for selection, but you have to go up 3 ļ¬oors to
certain categories, theyād remember Walgreens. get to it, music is the ļ¬rst thing you see (itās
a bookstore!), and the books arenāt arranged
A last retailer Iāll mention for a unique feature
very well; itās not laid out as logically as it could
is Best Buy. Their staff may be courteous,
be. Plus, the aisles are a little crowded. And the
the prices are nothing special, but the amount
cafe: what a disaster! Instead of it being in a
of space between aisles and departments is
reasonable place, you have to go down a ļ¬oor
excitingly refreshing. You can feel free to
- not so bad, except Iāve yet to locate where
roam around and look, then approach with
the baskets are, so I have an armful of books
curiosity. Even if there are many shoppers in
all the time - and the bathrooms are back up a
the store, you donāt really notice them. It just
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After browsing the books, itās nice to be able
to go to the Starbucks kiosk to sip some fresh-
I do buy a lot of books, and the layout of the brewed java. The chain also offers a rewards
store has to be conducive to that. Barnes & program with discounts on books bought both
Noble on Union Sq in Manhattan has some of online as well as through the stores.
the same issues as the Borders in Phillie, but
itās nowhere nearly as awkward to āuseā. The experience is always a good one, and I
even drop by just to āchillā a little to take a
Nordstromās are good! Even Iāve bought shoes break from a hectic day.
there. :-)
Layout and design, courteous service, quality
Karen Hegmann: I too am a believer as to product and an environment designed for
the implications of social science on the world tranquility all combine to create a positive
of commerce. The implications go far beyond experience for the customer.
brick and mortar businesses and touch the
online world as well. A well-designed website Trisha Miller: I love the model of
that addresses our needs will provide a good empowering employees in order to create a
experience and will entice viewers to come better customer experience.
back and take a second look.
I donāt get out to the ofļ¬ine stores much,
In Canada, my favourite store would have to but do a lot of online shopping. Head and
be the Chapters/Indigo chain of bookstores. shoulders above the rest is Amazon, whom
The stores are well laid out, and any deals are I shop frequently. Not only do they sell
promoted as you walk in the door. Staff is gazillions of items at reasonable prices, they
courteous and friendly, and if you canāt ļ¬nd are clear when they donāt have items in stock,
the book you need, they will help you ļ¬nd provide honest user reviews, and offer other
alternatives. items I might like that I may not have thought
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about before seeing their offer (yes I often buy
the additional item(s) on impulse).
amount of people coming through (great
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for quick breaks and people-watching). The
square footage isnāt small nor as daunting as a
Theyāve worked hard to make the buying shopping mall. Lastly the hours are excellent.
process easy, and to develop a relationship
with every purchaser with features like Wish āŗ In addition to the materials mentioned
Lists and Occasion Reminders. in our conversation, Mario recommends the
following blogs and books on retail and
This approach may not be feasible for a lot shopping experience:
of ofļ¬ine stores, but every online retailer can
learn a trick or two from Amazon. Flooring the Consumer by C.B. Whittemore
Retail Design Diva
Valeria Maltoni: I ļ¬nd it fascinating that
so far weāre talking about bookstores. Are The Curious Shopper by Sara Cantor
bookstores the new libraries? It would seem
that way. Retailwire.com as the premier source for
consumer and retail studies, in addition to
news on competitive maneuvering by retailers
So much can be communicated with a wise and regulatory trends & actions.
use of design. It is easier to be nice when
you donāt feel crowded by close hallways and Shopportunity!: How to Be a Retail
spaces, for example. Revolutionary - by Kate Newlin
Shopping: Why We Love It and How Retailers
Mario Vellandi: I get a kick out of the Can Create the Ultimate Customer Experience
references to bookstores as well. Interestingly - by Pamela N. Danziger
enough, Borders and B&N have provided
many Americans a new kind of experience Winning at New Products: Accelerating the
that combines shopping, browsing, and just Process from Idea to Launch - by Robert G.
hanging out. The environment gets a good Cooper
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