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Better Together
PPC and SEO
Daniel Gilbert
@danielgilbert44
Hi, I’m Dan Gilbert
• 35 Super-geeks
• $200M Ad Spend
• “Best PPC Agency in the world”*
*According to a Survey of me
@danielgilbert44
What do SE(h)Os do?
3
@danielgilbert44
Selling Number 1 on the Google
4
5
@danielgilbert44
What do they want?
6
• Practical tips
on how to be
better at SEO
• Links
• More Monies
@danielgilbert44 7
• Mysterious
• Wears a black hat
SEOPPC
• Faster than a speeding
bullet
• Able to leap tall SERPs
in a single bound
• Laser focused
How could we ever work together?
•Handsome, outgoing,
humble
•Lives in dark cave,
misogynistic alcoholic
• Enemy called
The Penguin
@danielgilbert44 8
PPC Supports SEO
Image credit: fishnbacon.tumblr.com
@danielgilbert44 9
We can help you with copy
@danielgilbert44 10
How is Quality Score calculated?
prCTR Other shtuff
Brainlabs - Quality Score*
*Source – my own eyes
CTR vs QS
@danielgilbert44 11
We needed to get good at copy testing
http://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2013/07/16/quality-score-cost-per-conversion
@danielgilbert44 12
We Can Test Your SEO Copy
Test different title tags in the headlines.
Test meta descriptions in the ad body
See which sitelinks get clicks
Test headlines & images on GDN
Or just share results from previous experiments
@danielgilbert44 13
Ideas for testing
Pricing
Discounts
Locations
Shipping
Range
Exclusivity
Quality
Calls-To-Action
Display URLs
Time sensitivity
@danielgilbert44 14
Impact of ad testing
Brad Geddes (@bgtheory) has some interesting examples as follows:
@danielgilbert44 15
Construction of an ad
This is what I think an ad should look like:
If you think you can’t be creative with 25 character Headlines, check out
Marty Weintraub’s SMX slides
@danielgilbert44 16
How to set up an ad test
1. Keyword testing = SKAGs
2. Concept testing = campaign/account wide
@danielgilbert44 17
Keyword testing – 1 kw/AG
Ad Group 1:
Nike Shoes
“Buy Nike Shoes”
CTR = 10%
[nike shoes]
Ad Group 2:
Pink Nike Shoes
“Buy Pink Nike Shoes”
CTR = 25%
[pink nike
shoes]
1 Ad Group:
Nike Shoes
“Buy Nike Shoes”
CTR = 10%
“Buy Pink Nike
Shoes”
CTR = 0.5%
[nike shoes]
[pink nike
shoes]
@danielgilbert44 18
Concept Testing: Tools
1. Adalysis
2. Optmyzr
3. Native AdWords tools
@danielgilbert44 19
SEO Supports PPC
@danielgilbert44
Studies show that having organic listings and PPC ads on the same results page
gives you more clicks than if you just had the organic.
20
SEO Supports PPC
Source: Impact of Organic Rank on Ad Click Incrementality, Google 2012
@danielgilbert44
Link your AdWords account to your Webmaster Tools/Search Console.
Then Google will tell you the clicks, impressions/queries and position of your
organic listings and paid ads – when they appeared separately and when they
were together.
21
Paid & Organic Report
@danielgilbert44
Blended Brainlabs clients (non brand terms only) :
But we can’t connect this to conversions
22
Paid & Organic Report
Ad CTR Organic CTR Overall CTR
Ad only 2.82% - 2.82%
Both shown 4.76% 4.10% 8.86%
Organic only - 3.63% 3.63%
@danielgilbert44 23
SEO Supports PPC
CTR and conversion rate are higher when there’s an organic
listing.
We analysed data for our clients from AdWords and SEMrush...
0.00%
1.00%
2.00%
3.00%
4.00%
5.00%
In Top 10 Organic
Results
Not in Top 10
Organic Results
AdCTR
0.00%
0.10%
0.20%
0.30%
0.40%
0.50%
0.60%
0.70%
In Top 10 Organic
Results
Not in Top 10
Organic Results
AdConversionRate
@danielgilbert44 24
SEO Supports PPC
There’s much less difference in conversion rate, but CTR is still
more than double
Is that just because you rank best for the most relevant terms?
We excluded searches containing brand terms...
0.00%
0.20%
0.40%
0.60%
0.80%
1.00%
1.20%
1.40%
1.60%
1.80%
In Top 10 Organic
Results
Not in Top 10
Organic Results
AdCTR
0.00%
0.10%
0.20%
0.30%
0.40%
0.50%
In Top 10 Organic
Results
Not in Top 10
Organic Results
AdConversionRate
@danielgilbert44 25
Correlation or Causation?
“GREAT BUT
IS IT CAUSAL
YA PPC
PUNK?”
@danielgilbert44 26
Let’s look at some data
@danielgilbert44 27
Bubbles!
@danielgilbert44 28
What does the data show?
Not sharing the R² - too dangerous to look at averages
Only a selection of the clients where we did see a pattern
Normalised for chaning PPC positions, seasonality and competitors
@danielgilbert44 29
What does the data show?
• No meaningful impact on CR
• No meaningful impact in lower positions
• Measurable increase in CTR for higher positions
• Measurable decrease in CTR for reverse trend
@danielgilbert44 30
We have a hero
@danielgilbert44 31
Conclusions
SEOs can learn from PPC copy experts
Presence in organic  effect on CTR
SEO people should get some of our budget
Next: Quantify the precise improvement for your
business/clients... And get yourselves some ad $$$
Next: what does this look like on Mobile?
@danielgilbert44 32
Open-source code
Here’s all the code you need for SEMrush API
http://www.brainlabsdigital.com/blog/
@danielgilbert44 33
More Open-source madness!
Try labelling your PPC keywords with your and your
competitors’ positions!
@danielgilbert44 34
The End!
daniel.g@brainlabsdigital.com
@danielgilbert44

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SearchLove London 2015 | Daniel Gilbert | PPC and SEO: Better Together

Editor's Notes

  1. You’d expect to get more clicks if you have ads and listings together – you’re taking up more screen space.
  2. You’d expect to get more clicks if you have ads and listings together – you’re taking up more screen space.
  3. But organic traffic isn’t filtered - it won’t just be from when or where your ads are running. So it may cover queries you wouldn’t want to bid on.