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In Case You Missed Gadsden vs. Mariano I
Gadsden vs. Mariano II
Thoracic Epidural vs. Interfascial Plane Blocks
THIS TIME IT’S VIRTUAL
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Switched Sides: Now I’m the Underdog
Interfascial Plane Blocks Offer a Safer, More
Efficacious and Cost-Effective Alternative to
Thoracic Epidural Analgesia
Edward R. Mariano, M.D., M.A.S.
Professor of Anesthesiology, Perioperative & Pain Medicine
Stanford University School of Medicine
Chief, Anesthesiology and Perioperative Care
Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System
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#ANES20
Interfascial Plane Blocks Offer a Safer, More
Efficacious and Cost-Effective Alternative to
Thoracic Epidural Analgesia
Edward R. Mariano, M.D., M.A.S.
Professor of Anesthesiology, Perioperative & Pain Medicine
Stanford University School of Medicine
Chief, Anesthesiology and Perioperative Care
Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System
@EMARIANOMD
#ANES20
Interfascial Plane Blocks Offer a Safer, More
Efficacious and Cost-Effective Alternative to
Thoracic Epidural Analgesia
Edward R. Mariano, M.D., M.A.S.
Professor of Anesthesiology, Perioperative & Pain Medicine
Stanford University School of Medicine
Chief, Anesthesiology and Perioperative Care
Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System
@EMARIANOMD
#ANES20
@EMARIANOMD
Disclosures
 None
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Let’s Pretend that Jeff Likes Epidurals
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Let’s Pretend that Jeff Likes Epidurals
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I Will Not Try to Prove Superiority
Epidural
Interfascial
Plane Blocks
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My Objectives
 Redefine major abdominal surgery
 Discuss the future of thoracic epidural analgesia
 Prove to you that interfascial plane blocks are an
acceptable alternative to thoracic epidural
@EMARIANOMD
My Objectives
 Redefine major abdominal surgery
 Discuss the future of thoracic epidural analgesia
 Prove to you that interfascial plane blocks are an
acceptable alternative to thoracic epidural
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What Is Major Abdominal Surgery?
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What Is Major Abdominal Surgery?
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What Is Major Abdominal Surgery?
Still Need Epidural?
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My Objectives
 Redefine major abdominal surgery
 Discuss the future of thoracic epidural analgesia
 Prove to you that interfascial plane blocks are an
acceptable alternative to thoracic epidural
@EMARIANOMD
Major abdominal
surgery patients who
get an epidural
Major abdominal
surgery patients who
DON’T get an epidural
Elsharydah, et al. Proc (Bayl Univ Med Cent) 2017
Kim, et al. Pancreas 2020
• 15% colectomy
• 19% distal pancreatectomy
• 23% pancreaticoduodenectomy
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Kim, et al. Pancreas 2020
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RAPM 2012;37:310
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Residency Training in Thoracic Epidurals
https://www.acgme.org/Specialties/Program-Requirements-and-FAQs-and-
Applications/pfcatid/6/Anesthesiology
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Growing Role for Subspecialists?
Parra et al. RAPM 2017;42:17
Auyong et al. RAPM 2017;42:204
How many
residency
graduates can
routinely do this?
@EMARIANOMD
My Objectives
 Redefine major abdominal surgery
 Discuss the future of thoracic epidural analgesia
 Prove to you that interfascial plane blocks are an
acceptable alternative to thoracic epidural
@EMARIANOMD
Mariano & Schatman. J Pain Res 2019
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We Have Plenty of Alternatives to Epidural
Chin et al. RAPM 2017;42:133
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If Epidurals Were Perfect…
Tsui, et al. JCA 2019;53:29
Why so much interest in new
interfascial plane blocks?
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Pragmatic Criteria Support Alternatives
Mudumbai, Auyong, Memtsoudis, Mariano. Pain Manag 2018
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Major abdominal
surgery patients who
get an epidural
Major abdominal
surgery patients who
DON’T get an epidural
Elsharydah, et al. Proc (Bayl Univ Med Cent) 2017
Kim, et al. Pancreas 2020
• 15% colectomy
• 19% distal pancreatectomy
• 23% pancreaticoduodenectomy
@EMARIANOMD
Major abdominal
surgery patients who
get an epidural
Major abdominal surgery
patients who get
INTERFASCIAL PLANE BLOCKS
Elsharydah, et al. Proc (Bayl Univ Med Cent) 2017
Kim, et al. Pancreas 2020
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Time to Focus on Basic Blocks
Turbitt, Mariano, El-Boghdadly. Anaesthesia 2020
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Time to Focus on Basic Blocks
Turbitt, Mariano, El-Boghdadly. Anaesthesia 2020
Need to Teach Transferable Skills
TAP
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• Learn in 4 attempts
• Set-up + bilateral blocks
= 6 min or less!
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Qin, et al. BMC Anesthesiol 2020
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Leng & Mariano. RAPM 2020
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Still Much to Learn
Elsharkawy, Pawa, Mariano. RAPM 2018;43:341
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Research Takes Time
@EMARIANOMD
Summary
 We redefined major abdominal surgery
 We discussed the future of thoracic epidural analgesia
 Hopefully I proved to you that interfascial plane blocks
are an acceptable alternative to thoracic epidural

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