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IPv6 in the access layer
 Status update




                                Marco Hogewoning
                                        marco@xs4all.net

                 Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin
Who are we ?
• One of the oldest Dutch service providers
• Established May 1st 1993
• 100% daughter of KPN NV since 1998
• Approximately 300k DSL subscribers
• Related services: homepage, email
• Hosting services, colocation




                 Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
History of IPv6
6bone pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 allocated to XS4ALL-NL
Bob Fink fink@es.net
Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:30:03 -0700
XS4ALL-NL in The Netherlands has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 having
finished its 2-week review period.

<http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?XS4ALL-NL>


Note that it will take a short while for their pTLA inet6num entry to
appear in the 6bone registry as they have to create it themselves. However,
their registration is listed on:

<http://www.6bone.net/6bone_pTLA_list.html>


To create a reverse DNS registration for pTLAs, please send the prefix
allocated above, and a list of at least two authoritative nameservers, to
either bmanning@isi.edu or hostmaster@ep.net.


Thanks,

Bob




                                  Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Business case




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            Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Why




      Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
What do we sell ?




            Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
So we must prevent this:




            Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
How




      Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Technical setup
• PPPoA/PPPoE
• Telco network is agnostic towards NCP
• BRAS: Juniper E320
• Both ATM and ethernet (VPLS) transport
• Single session, dual stack
• IPCP & IPv6CP
• DHCPv6 PD (JUNOSe built-in)
• DNS resolvers via DHCPv6
• PPP interface is link local only
• All customers are assigned a static /48




                Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Experiences so far




            Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
CPE
• Most are still beta
• Early deployment if you are lucky
• AVM, Draytek, Cisco, Juniper, Technicolor
• Coming: Zyxel, Iskratel
• Common issues
• DUID not persistent because of timestamp
• UI issues
• Dependency on RA or SLAAC on WAN
• PPPoE more popular
• See RIPE-60 archives for more detail




                Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Provisioning
• Basics are done
• Database can support IPv6
• Most of the tooling ignores IPv6
• Time consuming and painstaking process
• What do we need ?




               Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Services
• Apache 1.3 -> 2.2
• custom modules
• Hosting contains loads of unknowns
• Sendmail needs some work
• *.ipv6.xs4all.nl poses challenges for SSL




                 Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Loadbalancers
• Brocade serveriron (wsm6-ssl) on 11.0.0
• No feature parity
• limited to 48 bits and broken
• New firmware released last week (11.0.0e)
• Still contains the bug
• Waiting for ADX demo equipment
• Should be 128 bits clean
• Promises feature parity
• Looking at alternatives
• A10
• F5
• ...?


                Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Pilot
• 300+ connected
• Mailing list had high volume for a few weeks
  then slowed down
• Most people are happy
• CPE bugs seem a natural thing
• Race condition leads to IPv6 only connection
• Wish list:
• Reverse DNS
• Reverse DNS
• Reverse DNS
• More content



                Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
A word of advice




             Start now !




            Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Cooperate
• Use the resources at hand
• Mailing list like
    • ipv6-wg@ripe.net
    • ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
    • IETF v6ops
• Specialized websites and fora
• These kind of meetings
• Make yourself heard !




                Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin   Marco Hogewoning
Marco Hogewoning -XS4all

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Marco Hogewoning -XS4all

  • 1. IPv6 in the access layer Status update Marco Hogewoning marco@xs4all.net Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin
  • 2. Who are we ? • One of the oldest Dutch service providers • Established May 1st 1993 • 100% daughter of KPN NV since 1998 • Approximately 300k DSL subscribers • Related services: homepage, email • Hosting services, colocation Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 3. History of IPv6 6bone pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 allocated to XS4ALL-NL Bob Fink fink@es.net Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:30:03 -0700 XS4ALL-NL in The Netherlands has been allocated pTLA 3FFE:8280::/28 having finished its 2-week review period. <http://whois.6bone.net/cgi-bin/whois?XS4ALL-NL> Note that it will take a short while for their pTLA inet6num entry to appear in the 6bone registry as they have to create it themselves. However, their registration is listed on: <http://www.6bone.net/6bone_pTLA_list.html> To create a reverse DNS registration for pTLAs, please send the prefix allocated above, and a list of at least two authoritative nameservers, to either bmanning@isi.edu or hostmaster@ep.net. Thanks, Bob Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 4. Business case <Page intentionally left blank> Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 5. Why Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 6. What do we sell ? Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 7. So we must prevent this: Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 8. How Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 9. Technical setup • PPPoA/PPPoE • Telco network is agnostic towards NCP • BRAS: Juniper E320 • Both ATM and ethernet (VPLS) transport • Single session, dual stack • IPCP & IPv6CP • DHCPv6 PD (JUNOSe built-in) • DNS resolvers via DHCPv6 • PPP interface is link local only • All customers are assigned a static /48 Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 10. Experiences so far Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 11. CPE • Most are still beta • Early deployment if you are lucky • AVM, Draytek, Cisco, Juniper, Technicolor • Coming: Zyxel, Iskratel • Common issues • DUID not persistent because of timestamp • UI issues • Dependency on RA or SLAAC on WAN • PPPoE more popular • See RIPE-60 archives for more detail Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 12. Provisioning • Basics are done • Database can support IPv6 • Most of the tooling ignores IPv6 • Time consuming and painstaking process • What do we need ? Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 13. Services • Apache 1.3 -> 2.2 • custom modules • Hosting contains loads of unknowns • Sendmail needs some work • *.ipv6.xs4all.nl poses challenges for SSL Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 14. Loadbalancers • Brocade serveriron (wsm6-ssl) on 11.0.0 • No feature parity • limited to 48 bits and broken • New firmware released last week (11.0.0e) • Still contains the bug • Waiting for ADX demo equipment • Should be 128 bits clean • Promises feature parity • Looking at alternatives • A10 • F5 • ...? Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 15. Pilot • 300+ connected • Mailing list had high volume for a few weeks then slowed down • Most people are happy • CPE bugs seem a natural thing • Race condition leads to IPv6 only connection • Wish list: • Reverse DNS • Reverse DNS • Reverse DNS • More content Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 16. A word of advice Start now ! Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning
  • 17. Cooperate • Use the resources at hand • Mailing list like • ipv6-wg@ripe.net • ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de • IETF v6ops • Specialized websites and fora • These kind of meetings • Make yourself heard ! Irish IPv6 Summit - May 19th 2010, Dublin Marco Hogewoning