Successfully reported this slideshow.
We use your LinkedIn profile and activity data to personalize ads and to show you more relevant ads. You can change your ad preferences anytime.

24 gods love v. gods wrath feb. 2014

522 views

Published on

God's love

Published in: Spiritual
  • Login to see the comments

  • Be the first to like this

24 gods love v. gods wrath feb. 2014

  1. 1. God’s love verses God’s wrath JanEgil Gulbrandsen Feb. 2014 gulbrandsen@islandnet.com Updated March 2015
  2. 2. • Let’s start with this first statement: • “God is love” • (We read it in 1 John 4:8, 4:16 and many other scriptures) • “Is” means it is who he is and what he is • Nothing more – nothing less • It is his nature • It is all he is…
  3. 3. • He is agape love • (agape is a type of love that “loves in spite of”- in spite of what man do with God’s love - or if man should choose to reject his love all together) • It is unconditional love • ( in other words: there is no conditions required to receive his love. You can not sin your way out of his love) • If he were to turn his love into anger, hate and rage just because he did not get his way, it would only be a conditional love.
  4. 4. • But God is pure love • (not a little bit of love and a little bit of something else) • God is not love and…. • (love one moment and hate and anger the next) • Agree? • Yes
  5. 5. • Everything God does is rooted in love • As a good father he has to “raise” his children • That can include discipline and correction • He “protects us” from danger – but not all children like to be “protected” • But it always comes from a point of love • Every book and chapter in the Bible is rooted in the fact that God is love
  6. 6. • Listen to this simple little storey: • You look out the window and see your 4 year old child playing with a dangerous wolf • You almost panic, but you feel an intense love and passion for him - you run outside as fast as you can • You valiantly attack the wolf – you jell and scream to chase him away • Now the child freaks out • He thinks you are angry at him
  7. 7. • The wolf runs away • You have just saved the life of your most precious treasure – you beloved child • This is how God’s love is for all of mankind • He loves absolutely everybody with an endless love
  8. 8. • God always love the sinner • But he hates sin… • Not because he is “so holy” and get offended and can’s stand it… • (yes – he is holy) • But because of what sin does to his creation – man. • Sin does not effect God – it effects you
  9. 9. • Sin can be in me Rom. 7 • But it does not define me • It is not “who I am” • (I’m a Saint – not a sinner) • You can teach a dog to walk on his two back legs, but it will never be his nature • We have received a new nature
  10. 10. • Like God said to Adam ad Eve: • Don’t sin. (Don’t eat of the apple) • Because it will kill you. • It happened spiritually immediately. • And bodily some years later… • (but now the last Adam (Jesus) has reversed the fall… ) • Now man can get “new life” spiritually – and immediately… By believing in him. • And live forever…
  11. 11. • God does not have any anger toward man • And the reason is very simple: • He put all his anger on Jesus that carried all the sins of the world • So in conclusion: • God is nothing but pure love toward mankind • Always!
  12. 12. • But what about God’s wrath? • King James Bible mentions God’s “wrath” 36 times in the New testament? • Does not that prove that God can be mad and angry and hateful and revengeful toward man? • No. • We are now going to look closer at what this “wrath” really means.
  13. 13. • The word “wrath” used in the New Testament comes from the Greek word “ORG’E” (G3709) • This word has 4 categories of translation: • 1) Natural anger or temper (in a person) • 2) Movement of the soul, like in: natural impulse, strong passion, intense or valiant emotion, desire (even the word orgy and orgasm comes from this word)
  14. 14. • 3) anger, indignation, wrath • 4) punishment by authorities (governments) • The King James translators chose to use the words from category 3 – anger, indignation and particularly “wrath”. • It could just as well have been translated with the word definition from category 2 - Movement of the soul, like in: natural impulse, strong or valiant passion, intense emotion or intention
  15. 15. • The root word or derivation of “ORG’E” (G3709) is the Greek word “OREGO” (G3713) • (a derivation means: a new word from the basis (root) of another word) • Like a verb to a noun – ex. To write – a writer • So what does the root word of “org’e” or King James’ “wrath” mean??? • This is what Strong’s dictionary writes:
  16. 16. • “ To stretch one’s self out (or to long for) in order to touch something – to reach after or desire something” • Do you see the difference? • God’s “wrath” is not anger toward man • It is God reaching out to men in order to touch them with his love • Why: because he desires to restore fellowship
  17. 17. • Why did the King James translators chose to use word like Gods wrath, Gods anger and indignation? • Could it be to make people afraid of God ? • And true this, to control the people • And to maintain the power of the church • King James’ instructions to the 47 translators was clear: • Maintain the power structure of the church (the church of England) – and the state (the King)
  18. 18. • God is love • And with a correct understanding and translation of the Greek scriptures, we can see that • Gods “wrath” is not punishment – it is love • It is like the dictionary says: God is reaching out to touch man • We are talking about reaching the unbeliever
  19. 19. • How can we know that this “wrath” is for unbelievers only? • Because the scriptures are totally clear on this: • Believers are not effected by God’s “wrath” • I will give you 7 examples: • John 3:36 “The wrath of God will abide on him that don’t believe the Son”
  20. 20. • Rom. 5:9 “Being now justified, we shall be saved from wrath – trough Him (Jesus)” • 1 Thess. 1:10 “Jesus delivered us from the wrath to come” • 1 Thess. 5:9 “For God has not obtained us to wrath, but to obtain salvation • Col. 3:5-12 “Earthly nature (sin) leads to Gods wrath. You used to walk in this way – now you are Gods people (saved)
  21. 21. • Eph. 5:6 and Col. 3:6 says the same ting: • The wrath of God comes on the “children of disobedience” • Strong's dictionary explains that this Greek word apeitheia (G543) also can mean “rejection of the will of God” • It’s root word is erymology (G543) which simply means “unbelief.” • So the two scriptures really read: • “The wrath of God comes on the children of unbelief”
  22. 22. • So what is this “wrath” – this violate passion and movement of Gods soul? • Is it God reaching out to someone in an intense way for something he longs to poses? • When is this “wrath” taking place? • Romans 2:5 talks about “the day of God’s wrath”
  23. 23. • It is still some day in the future… • It is called “the great day of the Lord” • Judgment day • Could it be that “hell” is not God’s anger and wrath towards men, but a place where he expresses his passionate (agape) love for the ones that (so far) have rejected him? • For those who choose to reject him, it is “hell” and torment
  24. 24. • One of the early church fathers, St. Isaac (the Syrian) – 7th century - said it this way: • Those who are punished in Gahanna (Hell) are scourged (a whip or a lash)by the scourge of love • The early church (the orthodox church) had a much different understanding of what hell was • The “modern hell” theology of the catholic church really “took off” in the 14th century with “Dante's inferno” ( a theatre play on hell) • Now they (the church) could really scare “the hell” out of people…
  25. 25. • But is not hell a place for the wicket separated (away from) God? • Not so. • Psalm 139:7-8 says: “Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? • I go up to the heavens, you are there • I make my bed in hell, behold, you are there”. • God is in hell and everywhere else… • His presence there is intense as fire…
  26. 26. • In Daniel 7:9-10 we read about “God on a throne of flaming fire and a river of fire running from his throne” • Remember God in the burning bush… • We also know that the Holy Spirit came with “tongue's of fire” on the day of Pentecost • God is described as fire in the following verses; Gen 19:24, Ex 3:2, 9:23, 13;21-22, 19:18, Numb 11:1-3, 4:24, Ne 9:12, Ps 66:10, 104:4, Is 66:15, among others places. • Fire is obviously God’s trademark
  27. 27. • This is where his presence is… • Could it be that “hells fire” is the same thing – an intense presence of God where he is “reaching out to someone”? • Because “God’s desire is to see all men saved” 1 Tim. 2:3-4 • Will he have his way? • Hell is forever… • Because God is forever…
  28. 28. • God is light and fire • (remember in the old days they used fire as torches or light) • Could it be that “hells fire” is the same thing – an intense presence of God where he is “reaching out to someone”? • Because “God’s desire is to see all men saved” 1 Tim. 2:3-4 • Will he have his way?

×