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The End of Open Source ?
What's going on between VC-backed
Open Source companies and cloud
providers ?
Ludovic Dubost, XWiki SAS
Who am I
Creator of XWiki & running XWiki SAS
Working on Collaboration Software (XWiki & CryptPad)
Open Source Contributor & Promoter
Working full time on Open Source for 15 years
Events
February 2018: Elastic Search Licence used in OSS
repositories
August 2018: Redis Common Clause
December 2018: Confluent Community License
February 2019: Redis Source Available License
April 2019: Google Cloud announces partnership with OSS
companies
They all target AWS
What Creators & VCs hoped for
What Creators & VCs hoped for
Creator starts an OSS project (alone, with friends, with help
of his company)
Community loves the project and starts using it like crazy
Creator creates a company and VCs invest
The company continues to build up brand and software
Community continues to help the spreading
The company starts selling: support, pro versions,
extensions
Company makes a lot of money
Everybody is happy
Side-note
Creator hoped that there would still be a lot of investment in
the Open Source code and the Community
VCs did not really care
Community and Company are not talking as much anymore
What really happened
Selling support/pro versions/support did not bring back the
expected return from VCs
Alternative competition hosting the "free version" at low cost
emerged, not participating to the Open Source product
VC Backed company pushed more of the investment
towards "proprietary" components
Community and company are separating more and more
Results are still not enough for VC backed company
VC backed company blames it on the cloud or on companies
that are not paying
VC backed company changes licence
OSS companies are the bad guys ?
The new licences are not Open Source
BUT
They are still major contributors of Open Source Software
Cloud companies are the bad guys ?
They just use what they are allowed to use
BUT
They do not contribute or help the software they use
Stale-mate
What is the problem with the new
licences ?
By excluding Cloud providers, the initial developer also
excludes competition
What will be the limit to the exclusions as the company
wants to make more money
Open Core already existed to do that
What do we learn from this ?
Either
Open Source is not compatible with VCs financial objectives
VCs and creators are using this as an excuse to go more
"proprietary"
Open Source is too much used as a "freemium" strategy, not
for Open Source itself
Businesses (Clients, Cloud providers, even OSS Companies)
do not care enough about Open Source
What do we learn from this ?
There is a real problem
Who pays for Open Source code ?
The share of Open Source money in the industry (1-10B$
versus 300B$)
The prisoner's dilema, but it's not new
What is the future
We are again in a fight for standards & openness
Cloud & SAAS needs to be factored in the business model of
OSS companies
There is a big risk of Open-Source washing
Free Software Community needs new methods of funding,
especially for the last mile
The End of Open Source ?
FOSS is still very important
Only Open-Source gives us independence (as users & as
countries)
Open Source allows more open competition vs winner takes
all
Open Source is still the best strategy for Europe & for the
Public Sector
Is Open Source dead ?
Developers still love Open Source
There is still more and more Open Source code
Cloud & SAAS providers do contribute to OSS but at a lower
rate
Lower returns business model still work, and it can be good
news for them
When you have the AWS problem this actually means things
go quite well
Answer: No !
What can OSS businesses do ?
Keep an edge
strong licences can give an edge to OSS (AGPL)
paying modules (Can still be OSS)
do not be shy of making customers pay
Have a Cloud strategy
Partner with Cloud Providers (OVH ?)
BUT
What can OSS businesses do ?
BUT
Respect OSS principles:
be transparent
separate OSS from non OSS
accept competition when the software becomes popular
What should Cloud companies do ?
Use Open-Source everywhere
Be Open-Cloud
BUT
Significantly contribute to them
and/or Partner with OSS Business (before they turn
proprietary)
What can government do ?
Favor Open Source for government buying
Enforce standards and openness & fight non competitive
practices
Launch a European Open Source Industrial Strategy
Finance Open Source projects that are useful for users,
enterprises & small cloud providers
Target core services that are not published as Open source
What can government do ?
What can users & companies do ?
Value the level of Open Source code, not the level of
freemium code
Value Open-Cloud strategies not proprietary cloud strategies
Require standards and open source
Require transparency from Businesses
Users cannot expect everything will be free

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The end of Open Source ? What's going on between VC Backed Open Source companies and Cloud providers ? -OW2con'19, June 12-13, Paris

  • 1. The End of Open Source ? What's going on between VC-backed Open Source companies and cloud providers ? Ludovic Dubost, XWiki SAS
  • 2. Who am I Creator of XWiki & running XWiki SAS Working on Collaboration Software (XWiki & CryptPad) Open Source Contributor & Promoter Working full time on Open Source for 15 years
  • 3. Events February 2018: Elastic Search Licence used in OSS repositories August 2018: Redis Common Clause December 2018: Confluent Community License February 2019: Redis Source Available License April 2019: Google Cloud announces partnership with OSS companies They all target AWS
  • 4. What Creators & VCs hoped for
  • 5. What Creators & VCs hoped for Creator starts an OSS project (alone, with friends, with help of his company) Community loves the project and starts using it like crazy Creator creates a company and VCs invest The company continues to build up brand and software Community continues to help the spreading The company starts selling: support, pro versions, extensions Company makes a lot of money Everybody is happy
  • 6. Side-note Creator hoped that there would still be a lot of investment in the Open Source code and the Community VCs did not really care Community and Company are not talking as much anymore
  • 7. What really happened Selling support/pro versions/support did not bring back the expected return from VCs Alternative competition hosting the "free version" at low cost emerged, not participating to the Open Source product VC Backed company pushed more of the investment towards "proprietary" components Community and company are separating more and more Results are still not enough for VC backed company VC backed company blames it on the cloud or on companies that are not paying VC backed company changes licence
  • 8. OSS companies are the bad guys ? The new licences are not Open Source BUT They are still major contributors of Open Source Software
  • 9. Cloud companies are the bad guys ? They just use what they are allowed to use BUT They do not contribute or help the software they use Stale-mate
  • 10. What is the problem with the new licences ? By excluding Cloud providers, the initial developer also excludes competition What will be the limit to the exclusions as the company wants to make more money Open Core already existed to do that
  • 11. What do we learn from this ? Either Open Source is not compatible with VCs financial objectives VCs and creators are using this as an excuse to go more "proprietary" Open Source is too much used as a "freemium" strategy, not for Open Source itself Businesses (Clients, Cloud providers, even OSS Companies) do not care enough about Open Source
  • 12. What do we learn from this ? There is a real problem Who pays for Open Source code ? The share of Open Source money in the industry (1-10B$ versus 300B$) The prisoner's dilema, but it's not new
  • 13. What is the future We are again in a fight for standards & openness Cloud & SAAS needs to be factored in the business model of OSS companies There is a big risk of Open-Source washing Free Software Community needs new methods of funding, especially for the last mile
  • 14. The End of Open Source ?
  • 15. FOSS is still very important Only Open-Source gives us independence (as users & as countries) Open Source allows more open competition vs winner takes all Open Source is still the best strategy for Europe & for the Public Sector
  • 16. Is Open Source dead ? Developers still love Open Source There is still more and more Open Source code Cloud & SAAS providers do contribute to OSS but at a lower rate Lower returns business model still work, and it can be good news for them When you have the AWS problem this actually means things go quite well Answer: No !
  • 17. What can OSS businesses do ? Keep an edge strong licences can give an edge to OSS (AGPL) paying modules (Can still be OSS) do not be shy of making customers pay Have a Cloud strategy Partner with Cloud Providers (OVH ?) BUT
  • 18. What can OSS businesses do ? BUT Respect OSS principles: be transparent separate OSS from non OSS accept competition when the software becomes popular
  • 19. What should Cloud companies do ? Use Open-Source everywhere Be Open-Cloud BUT Significantly contribute to them and/or Partner with OSS Business (before they turn proprietary)
  • 20. What can government do ? Favor Open Source for government buying Enforce standards and openness & fight non competitive practices Launch a European Open Source Industrial Strategy Finance Open Source projects that are useful for users, enterprises & small cloud providers Target core services that are not published as Open source
  • 22. What can users & companies do ? Value the level of Open Source code, not the level of freemium code Value Open-Cloud strategies not proprietary cloud strategies Require standards and open source Require transparency from Businesses Users cannot expect everything will be free