Godhead 5 - His Teaching in our Past History

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There is one God – The Father
There is one Lord– Jesus Christ
The only begotten Son of God
There is one Spirit – The Holy
Spirit of God & Christ
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What about the Holy Spirit?
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form
of God, thought it not
robbery to be equal
with God

Does God have a form and shape?
John 5:37
And the Father himself,
which hath sent me, hath
borne witness of me. Ye
have neither heard his
voice at any time, nnoorr
sseeeenn hhiiss sshhaappee..

Is God only physical?
John 4:24
GGoodd iiss aa SSppiirriitt: and they
that worship him must
worship him in spirit and
in truth.

What is the Bible definition for ‘spirit’?
Isaiah 40:13
Who hath directed the SSppiirriitt ooff tthhee LLOORRDD,
or being his counsellor hath taught him?
Romans 11:34
For who hath known the mmiinndd ooff tthhee LLoorrdd?
or who hath been his counsellor?

What is the relation between
man and his spirit?
Daniel 2:1
And in the second year
of the reign of
Nebuchadnezzar
Nebuchadnezzar
dreamed dreams,
wherewith hhiiss ssppiirriitt
wwaass ttrroouubblleedd, and his
sleep brake from him.

What is the relation between
man and his spirit?
1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a
man, save the spirit of man which is in
him? eevveenn ssoo the things of God
knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Is it just a force?
Psalm 51:11
Cast me not away
from thy pprreesseennccee;
and take not thy hhoollyy
ssppiirriitt from me.

Where does the Holy Spirit
come from?
John 20:22
And when he had said
this, hhee bbrreeaatthheedd oonn
tthheemm,, aanndd ssaaiitthh uunnttoo
tthheemm,, RReecceeiivvee yyee tthhee
HHoollyy GGhhoosstt:
“Christ gives them the
breath of His own spirit, the
life of His own life.” {DA
827.3} www.Revelation1412.org

Which Spirit?
“But there are two
spirits in the world,--tthhee
SSppiirriitt ooff GGoodd and tthhee
ssppiirriitt ooff SSaattaann.”
{ST, November 24, 1887
par. 7}

The Spirit is a person!
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing: the
words that I speak unto you,
they are spirit, and they are life.
“Christ is not here referring to his
doctrine, but to his person, the
divinity of his character.”
{RH, April 5, 1906 par. 12}

Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why
hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the
Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the
price of the land? (4) … thou hast not lied
unto men, but unto God.
Acts 5:9
Then Peter said unto
her, How is it that ye
have agreed together to
tempt the Spirit of the
Lord? www.Revelation1412.org

Cumbered with humanity, Christ
could not be in every place
personally; therefore it was altogether
for their advantage that He should
leave them, go to His father, and
send the Holy Spirit to be His
successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is
Himself divested of the personality of
humanity and independent thereof.
He would represent Himself as
present in all places by His Holy
Spirit, as the Omnipresent.
{14MR 23} www.Revelation1412.org

“This refers to the omnipresence of
the Spirit of Christ, called the
Comforter.” {14MR 179}1891
“This Comforter is the Holy Spirit,--
the soul of his life, the efficacy of his
church, the light and life of the world.
With his Spirit Christ sends a
reconciling influence and a power
that takes away sin.”
Review and Herald, May 19, 1904 par. 1

The Head of the Church
While Jesus ministers in the
sanctuary above, He is still by His
Spirit the minister of the church on
earth. He is withdrawn from the
eye of sense, but His parting
promise is fulfilled, "Lo, I am with
you alway, even unto the end of
the world." Matthew 28:20. While
He delegates His power to inferior
ministers, His energizing presence
is still with His church.
{DA 166.2}

The Trio
They have one God and one
Saviour; and one Spirit--the Spirit
of Christ--is to bring unity into
their ranks. {9T 189.3}

What did Christ promise to send us?
John 14:16, 26
And I will pray the Father, and he
shall give you another CCoommffoorrtteerr,
that he may abide with you for ever;
BBuutt tthhee CCoommffoorrtteerr,, wwhhiicchh iiss tthhee
HHoollyy GGhhoosstt, whom the Father will
send in my name, he shall teach
you all things, and bring all things
to your remembrance, whatsoever I
have said unto you.

Who is this Spirit?
Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath
sent forth tthhee SSppiirriitt ooff hhiiss SSoonn into
your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
2 Corinthians 3:17
NNooww tthhee LLoorrdd iiss tthhaatt SSppiirriitt: and
where the Spirit of the Lord is, there
is liberty.

Who is this Comforter?
John 14:18
I will not leave
you comfortless:
II wwiillll ccoommee ttoo yyoouu.
“The Saviour is our
Comforter. This I
have proved Him
to be.” {8MR 49}

Why are we weak?
The reason why the churches are weak
and sickly and ready to die, is that the
enemy has brought influences of a
discouraging nature to bear upon
trembling souls. HHee hhaass ssoouugghhtt ttoo sshhuutt
JJeessuuss ffrroomm tthheeiirr vviieeww aass tthhee CCoommffoorrtteerr,
as one who reproves, who warns, who
admonishes them, saying, "This is the
way, walk ye in it." {RH, August 26, 1890
par. 10}

Selected Messages Book 1, p.156
Satan is determined that men
shall not see the love of God
which led Him to give HHiiss
oonnllyy-bbeeggootttteenn SSoonn to save a lost
race; for it is the goodness of
God that leads men to
repentance.

““HHiiss
TTeeaacchhiinngg iinn
OOuurr PPaasstt
HHiissttoorryy””

AAtthhaannaassiiaann CCrreeeedd.. NNeeww CCaatteecchhiissmm pp.. 6677,, 6688
NNooww tthhiiss iiss tthhee CCaatthhoolliicc ffaaiitthh;; WWee wwoorrsshhiipp
One God in the TTrriinniittyy aanndd tthhee
TTrriinniittyy iinn uunniittyy,, wwiitthhoouutt eeiitthheerr
ccoonnffuussiinngg tthhee ppeerrssoonnss oorr ddiivviiddiinngg
tthhee ssuubbssttaannccee;; ffoorr tthhee ppeerrssoonn ooff
tthhee FFaatthheerr iiss oonnee,, tthhee SSoonn’’ss iiss
aannootthheerr,, tthhee HHoollyy SSppiirriitt’’ss iiss
aannootthheerr;; bbuutt tthhee GGooddhheeaadd ooff tthhee
FFaatthheerr,, SSoonn aanndd HHoollyy SSppiirriitt iiss oonnee,,
tthheeiirr gglloorryy eeqquuaall,, tthheeiirr mmaajjeessttyy
ccooeetteerrnnaall..

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TTrriinniittyy
TThheerree iiss oonnee GGoodd:: FFaatthheerr,,
SSoonn,, aanndd HHoollyy SSppiirriitt,, aa uunniittyy
ooff tthhrreeee ccoo--eetteerrnnaall PPeerrssoonnss..
“Seventh-Day Adventists agree
with many Catholic doctrines,
including the Trinity”
permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
+Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
www.Revelation1412.org www.catholic.com

“The New Pictorial Aid”
by Frank Breaden. p. 75.
Sold at the ABC
(From the book "My
Catholic Faith" by Bishop
Louis LaRavoire Morrow,
S.T.D.)

“We have nothing to fear
for the future, except as
we shall forget the way
the Lord has led us, aanndd
hhiiss tteeaacchhiinngg iinn oouurr ppaasstt
hhiissttoorryy.”
{GCDB, January 29, 1893 par. 5}
GGoodd’’ss ttrruuee cchhuurrcchh
tthhrroouugghh tthhee aaggeess

• AAllaammaannnnii –– GGeerrmmaann
• BBuurrgguunnddiiaannss ––
SSwwiissss
• FFrraannkkss –– FFrreenncchh
• LLoommbbaarrddss –– IIttaalliiaann
• SSaaxxoonnss –– EEnngglliisshh
• SSuueevvii –– PPoorrttuugguueessee
• VViissiiggootthhss –– SSppaanniisshh
• HHeerruullii –– EExxttiinncctt
• VVaannddaallss -- EExxttiinncctt
• OOssttrrooggootthhss ––
EExxttiinncctt

For 1260 yyeeaarrss tthhee cchhuurrcchh
wwaass ddrriivveenn iinnttoo tthhee
wwiillddeerrnneessss bbyy tthhee ppaappaall
ssyysstteemm..

“No wonder that the CCeellttiicc, the Gothic,
the Waldensian, the Armenian Churches,
and the great Church of the East, as well
as other bodies, differed profoundly from
the Papacy in its mmeettaapphhyyssiiccaall
ccoonncceeppttiioonnss ooff tthhee TTrriinniittyy and
consequently in the importance of the Ten
Commandments.” (B. G. Wilkinson, Truth
Triumphant Chapter 7, pp.87, 88 electronic
version) www.Revelation1412.org

1126600 yyeeaarrss
538AD - 1798AD

October 22, 1844

William Ellis Foy
“At the right side of the mmoouunnttaaiinn appeared a
mighty angel, with raiment like unto burnished
gold, his legs were like pillars of flaming fire, his
countenance was like the lightning, and his crown
gave light to this boundless place, and those that
had not passed through death, could not look
upon his countenance. I then beheld upon the
side of this mount, letters like pure gold which
said, ““TTHHEE FFAATTHHEERR,, AANNDD TTHHEE SSOONN.."" Directly
under these letters stood the mighty angel,
whose crown lighted up the place, and all the
heavenly host worshiped at his feet, round about
the mountain.”
The Christian Experience of William E. Foy, p. 12,

December 1844

The Methodist Faith
“There is but one living and
true God, everlasting, without
body or parts, of infinite
power, wisdom and goodness:
the maker and preserver of all
things, visible and invisible.
And in unity of this God-head,
there are three persons of one
substance, power and eternity;
the Father, the Son, and the
Holy Ghost.”
The first article of the Methodist
Religion, p. 8.

PPrrooggrreessssiivvee TTrruutthh
“I do not wish to ignore or drop one link in the
chain of evidence that was formed as, after the
passing of the time in 1844 …The evidence
given in our early experience has the same
force that it had then. The truth is the same as
it ever has been, and not a pin or a pillar can be
moved from the structure of truth. That which
was sought for out of the Word in 1844, 1845,
and 1846 remains the truth in every particular.”
{E. G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume 1, p. 52. 1906}
Consistent

FFoouunnddaattiioonnaall TTrruutthh
“Many of our people do not realize how firmly the
foundation of our faith has been laid. My
husband, Elder Joseph Bates, Father Pierce Elder
{Hiram} Edson, and others who were keen, noble,
and true, were among those who, after the passing
of the time in 1844, searched for the truth as for
hidden treasure. … I would be taken off in vision,
and a clear explanation of the passages we had
been studying would be given me, with
instruction as to how we were to labor and teach
effectively. Thus light was given that helped us to
understand the scriptures in regard to Christ, His
mission, and His priesthood. {1SM 206, 207}1904

OOlldd LLaannddmmaarrkk
“Those who seek to remove the old landmarks
are not holding fast; they are not remembering
how they have received and heard. Those who
try to bring in theories that would remove the
pillars of our faith concerning the sanctuary or
concerning the personality of God or of Christ,
are working as blind men.”
{MR760 9.5}1905

What was the foundation of our faith?
(The Son of God)
“Here we might mention
the Trinity, which does
away the personality of
God, and of his Son
Jesus Christ” {J. S.
White, Review & Herald,
December 11, 1855}

“God has permitted the
precious light of truth to shine
upon His word and illuminate
the mind of my husband. He
may reflect the rays of light
from the presence of Jesus upon
others by his preaching and
writing.” {3T 502}1875

“That which was sought for out of the Word in
1844, 1845, and 1846 remains the truth in
every particular.” {E. G. White, Manuscript Releases
Volume 1, p. 52. 1906}
1846 Consistent
1906

“The way spiritualizers have disposed
of or denied the only Lord God and
our Lord Jesus Christ is first using tthhee
oolldd uunnssccrriippttuurraall TTrriinniittaarriiaann
ccrreeeedd, viz., that Jesus Christ is the
eternal God, though they have not one
passage to support it, while we have
plain scripture testimony in
abundance that he is the Son of the
eternal God.” {J. S. White, The Day
Star, January 24, 1846}
1846 Consistent 1906

John Gottlieb Matteson
(1835 – 1896)
“Christ is the only literal
son of God. “The only
begotten of the Father.”
John 1:14. He is God
because he is the Son of
God; not by virtue of His
resurrection.”
{J. G. Matteson, Review
& Herald, October 12,
1869 p. 123)

“We have no doubt, neither have we had a
doubt for years, that the doctrines we hold
today are present truth, and that we are
nearing the judgment.” {E. G. White,
Testimonies Vol. 2, p. 355. 1870}
Consistent

1872 Statement of beliefs
The following propositions may be taken as a summary of the
principal features of their religious faith, upon which there is,
so far as we know, entire unanimity throughout the body.
I. That there is one God, a personal, spiritual being, the
creator of all things, omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal;
infinite in wisdom, holiness, justice, goodness, truth, and
mercy; unchangeable, and everywhere present by his
representative, the Holy Spirit. Ps. 139:7.
II. That there is one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the
Eternal Father, the one by whom he created all things,
and by whom they do consist;…
III. That the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments
were given by inspiration of God, contain a full revelation
of his will to man, and are the only infallible rule of
faith....” {Fundamental Principles of SDA’s no. 1, p. 147}
www.Revelation1412.org 1889 Year Book

“The Father was greater
than the Son in that he
was first. The Son was
equal with the Father in
that he had received all
things from the Father.”
{J. S. White, Review &
Herald, January 4, 1881}

“God is the Father of Christ;
Christ is the Son of God. To
Christ has been ggiivveenn an
exalted position. He has
been made equal with the
Father. All the counsels of
God are opened to His Son.”
{Testimonies Vol.8, p.
268.3}

“In Christ is life, original,
unborrowed, underived.”
{The Desire of Ages, p. 530}

"I lay it down of myself" (John 10: 18), He said. In
Him was life, original, unborrowed, underived.
This life is not inherent in man. He can possess it
only through Christ. He cannot earn it; it is given
him as a free gift if he will believe in Christ as His
personal Saviour. "This is life eternal, that they
might know thee the only true God, and Jesus
Christ, whom thou hast sent". This is the open
fountain of life for the world.”
{The Signs of the Times, April 8, 1897 quoted in
Selected Messages Book 1, pp. 296, 297}
(Note: Original, unborrowed underived life can be
GIVEN)

“All things Christ received from God,
but He took to give.” {The Desire of
Ages, p. 21}
“So in the heavenly courts, in His
ministry for all created beings: through
the beloved Son, the Father's life flows
out to all; through the Son it returns, in
praise and joyous service, a tide of love,
to the great Source of all.” {The Desire
of Ages, p. 21}

What was the foundation of our faith?
(Objections to the Trinity)
1. It is contrary to common sense. 2. It is
contrary to scripture. 3. Its origin is Pagan
and fabulous.
1. It is not very consonant with common
sense to talk of three being one, and one
being three. Or as some express it, calling
God "the Triune God," or "the three-one-
God." If Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are
each God, it would be three Gods; for three
times one is not one, but three.
{J. N. Loughborough, Review & Herald,
November 5, 1861}

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
____
3 Gods
Tritheism
Trinity
Tri-unity
Triune
of God
of God

What was the foundation of
Righteousness by faith?
(The Son of God)
There was a time when Christ
proceeded forth and came from
God, from the bosom of the
Father (John 8:42; 1:18), but that
time was so far back in the days
of eternity that to finite
comprehension it is practically
without beginning.
{E. J. Waggoner, Christ And His
Righteousness, pp. 19-24. 1890}

Jesus is the only begotten Son of
God. He was begotten, not created.
He is of the substance of the Father,
so that in his very nature he is God;
and since this is so 'It pleased the Father
that in him should all fullness dwell.' Col.
1:19...While both are of the same
nature, the Father is first in point of
time. He is also greater in that he
had no beginning, while Christ's
personality had a beginning.” {E. J.
Waggoner, Signs of the Times, April 8,
1889}

“The angels are sons
of God, as was
Adam…by creation;
Christians are the sons
of God by adoption
(Rom. 8:14, 15), but
Christ is the Son of God
bbyy bbiirrtthh.. … and so
Christ is the "express
image" of the Father's
person.” {E. J.
Waggoner, Christ And
His Righteousness, p.
12. 1890}
“"God so loved the
world, that he gave
his only-begotten
Son,"-- not a son by
creation, as were
the angels, nor a
son by adoption, as
is the forgiven
sinner, but a Son
bbeeggootttteenn in the
express image of
the Father's
person…” {E. G.
White, Signs of the
Times, May 30,

Christ the Word, the Only Begotten of
God, was one with the eternal Father,--
one in nature, in character, and in
purpose,--the only bbeeiinngg iinn aallll tthhee
uunniivveerrssee that could enter into all the
counsels and purposes of God. {GC
493.1}
Did Ellen White teach Trinity /
Tritheism / Triunity?
The Father and the Son alone
are to be exalted. {YI, July 7,
1898 par. 2}

The only being who
was one with God
lived the law in
humanity,
descended to the
lowly life of a
common laborer, and
toiled at the
carpenter's bench
with his earthly
parent. {ST, October
14, 1897 par. 3ww}w.Revelation1412.org

“Speaking of Satan, our Lord says that "he abode not
in the truth." He was once the covering cherub,
glorious in beauty and holiness. He was next to
Christ in exaltation and character.” {RH, October
22, 1895 par. 1}
Divine
Beings
Creature
Pre-Fall
“It was Gabriel, the angel next in rank to the Son of
God, who came with the divine message to Daniel.”
{DA 234} Divine
Beings
Creature
www.Revelation1412.org Post-Fall

DDeeuutteerroonnoommyy 66::77
AAnndd tthhoouu sshhaalltt tteeaacchh tthheemm ddiilliiggeennttllyy uunnttoo tthhyy
cchhiillddrreenn,, aanndd sshhaalltt ttaallkk ooff tthheemm wwhheenn tthhoouu
ssiitttteesstt iinn tthhiinnee hhoouussee,, aanndd wwhheenn tthhoouu wwaallkkeesstt
bbyy tthhee wwaayy,, aanndd wwhheenn tthhoouu lliieesstt ddoowwnn,, aanndd
wwhheenn tthhoouu rriisseesstt uupp..

James Edson White
(1849 – 1928)
“The angels, therefore, are created
beings, necessarily of a lower order
than their Creator. Christ is the only
being begotten of the Father.” {J. E.
White, Past, Present and Future, p. 52.
1909}
“Only one being in the universe
besides the Father bears the name
of God, and that is His Son, Jesus
Christ.” {J. E. White, The Coming
King, p. 33}

This Day With God, p. 128
“Angels were expelled from heaven because
they would not work in harmony with God.
They fell from their high estate because they
wanted to be exalted. They had come to exalt
themselves, and they forgot that their beauty of
person and of character came from the Lord
Jesus. This fact the [fallen] angels would
obscure, that Christ was the only begotten Son
of God, and they came to consider that they
were not to consult Christ.”

William Clarence White
(1854 – 1937)
“The statements and the arguments
of some of our ministers, in their
effort to prove that the Holy Spirit is
an individual as are God the Father
and Christ, the eternal Son, have
perplexed me, and sometimes they
have made me sad. One popular
teacher said ‘We may regard Him, as
the fellow who is down here running
things.’ {Letter, W. C. White to H. W.
Carr, April 30, 1935}

“It was also shown me that my
son, W. C. White, should be my
helper and counselor, and that
the Lord would place on him
the spirit of wisdom and of a
sound mind. I was shown that
the Lord would guide him, and
that he would not be led away,
because he would recognize the
leadings and guidance of the
Holy Spirit.” {E. G. White,
Selected Messages Book 1, pp. 54,
55} www.Revelation1412.org

PPrrooggrreessssiivvee TTrruutthh??
“The Word of the Lord has guided our
steps since the passing of the time in 1844.
We have searched the Scriptures; we
have built solidly; and we have not had
to tear up our foundations and put in
new timbers.”{1MR 54.1}
Consistent

““TThhee mmyysstteerryy ooff tthhee TTrriinniittyy
iiss tthhee cceennttrraall ddooccttrriinnee ooff tthhee
CCaatthhoolliicc FFaaiitthh.. UUppoonn iitt aarree
bbaasseedd aallll tthhee ootthheerr tteeaacchhiinnggss
ooff tthhee CChhuurrcchh..””
Handbook For Today’s Catholic, page 16

“After the passing of the time in
1844 we searched for the truth as
for hidden treasure. … Thus
light was given that helped us to
understand the scriptures in
regard to Christ, his mission, and
his priesthood. A line of truth
extending from that time to the
time when we shall enter the city
of God, was made plain to me,
and I gave to others the
instruction that the Lord had
given me.” {RH, May 25, 1905
par. 24}
1844
MMoosseess www.Revelation1412.org

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