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Customer Development
(Really, Customer Discovery)
Rui Ma, September 10, 2018
Housekeeping
- Slack is open!
- There are many channels … let us know if you can only see a few
- Calendar invites
- Zoom issues??
- Everything is recorded!!
- Questions??
- Paola@ttacademy.co
- Slack
About Rui
- Grew up in Silicon Valley
- Grew up with tech: parents were engineers, majored in EECS at Berkeley
- Work: tech investment banking, private equity, and seed / accelerator
- Advisor: a few startups, accelerators (Zeroth, UNICEF)
- Nonprofits: Rookie.fund, TTA
- Education: EMBA, Education, Psychology (ongoing)
- Goal in life: Writing. ??
- Meditate, run, vegetarian
- Will be mentoring a lot of you!
- Today’s session .... based on NSF/Steve Blank, and years of experience
working with startups.
Customer Development - In Brief
- You should be solving for a customer problem … not trying to sell your
solution.
- Goals:
- What is the problem?
- Who is experiencing this problem?
- Do I understand the key components for a successful
solution?
- How are they going to pay for it and why?
- Listen.
Who is going to use it?
- Customers are people, not companies
- In companies, they should have specific titles and responsibilities
- If individuals, they should have specific traits and other identifying factors
How are they going to pay for it?
- It’s really about the chain of decisions that has to happen and what is
involved at each step
- They are usually complex
- Understand time, cost, considerations, alternatives
- Who has to buy in and why?
- What are emotional constraints? Other constraints?
Anatomy of an Interview
- Never mention your technology
- If asked, just let them know that they have to wait, you are working on “something related”
- It’s about understanding the customer’s frustrations
- It’s an interview. Ask questions and listen!
- No leading questions. NEVER discuss the technology.
- I’d just like to understand your job / day / experience with … xyz.
- Tell me more.
- How does that work?
- ABSOLUTELY NO SURVEYS. EVER.
- Face to face > phone, but phone is OK, too.
- Always be open-ended. Ask for 15 mins. Get an hour.
Example
- Imagine you want to do a coaching platform for people to find coaches
- Do not start off talking about coaching. Talk about the problem you want to solve.
- “I’m interested in your story because I’m working on something that may help people lead
more fulfilled lives / become unstuck in life / xyz.”
- “I’m trying to understand the process. Could you tell me about … ?”
- What have you tried before? Tell me more about why you tried that. How did you find the
solution?
- How did that work out? Why did you stop / continue … ?
- What’s going on now?
Assume that people haven’t thought deeply about the problem and that you need
to probe very deep to get at their insights.
Scheduling Interviews
- Strangers >> friends
- LinkedIn. Conferences.
- Creative ways - go to the hospital smoking area. Go to the construction site.
- Be persistent. Be honest.
- Target 100, but only schedule a handful at a time.
- Don’t be deterred by 1 negative feedback, but if there’s 5, consider trying
another segment.
- Always be refining.
- Usually people get really good after 50.
- DON’T SEEK TO VALIDATE. DISCOVER.
Do Everything to Avoid Confirmation Bias
In fact, bias towards questions that disprove your need.
And Assume You Know Nothing
Q&A

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[TTA2018] Customer Development - Rui Ma 091018

  • 1. Customer Development (Really, Customer Discovery) Rui Ma, September 10, 2018
  • 2. Housekeeping - Slack is open! - There are many channels … let us know if you can only see a few - Calendar invites - Zoom issues?? - Everything is recorded!! - Questions?? - Paola@ttacademy.co - Slack
  • 3. About Rui - Grew up in Silicon Valley - Grew up with tech: parents were engineers, majored in EECS at Berkeley - Work: tech investment banking, private equity, and seed / accelerator - Advisor: a few startups, accelerators (Zeroth, UNICEF) - Nonprofits: Rookie.fund, TTA - Education: EMBA, Education, Psychology (ongoing) - Goal in life: Writing. ?? - Meditate, run, vegetarian - Will be mentoring a lot of you! - Today’s session .... based on NSF/Steve Blank, and years of experience working with startups.
  • 4. Customer Development - In Brief - You should be solving for a customer problem … not trying to sell your solution. - Goals: - What is the problem? - Who is experiencing this problem? - Do I understand the key components for a successful solution? - How are they going to pay for it and why? - Listen.
  • 5. Who is going to use it? - Customers are people, not companies - In companies, they should have specific titles and responsibilities - If individuals, they should have specific traits and other identifying factors
  • 6. How are they going to pay for it? - It’s really about the chain of decisions that has to happen and what is involved at each step - They are usually complex - Understand time, cost, considerations, alternatives - Who has to buy in and why? - What are emotional constraints? Other constraints?
  • 7. Anatomy of an Interview - Never mention your technology - If asked, just let them know that they have to wait, you are working on “something related” - It’s about understanding the customer’s frustrations - It’s an interview. Ask questions and listen! - No leading questions. NEVER discuss the technology. - I’d just like to understand your job / day / experience with … xyz. - Tell me more. - How does that work? - ABSOLUTELY NO SURVEYS. EVER. - Face to face > phone, but phone is OK, too. - Always be open-ended. Ask for 15 mins. Get an hour.
  • 8. Example - Imagine you want to do a coaching platform for people to find coaches - Do not start off talking about coaching. Talk about the problem you want to solve. - “I’m interested in your story because I’m working on something that may help people lead more fulfilled lives / become unstuck in life / xyz.” - “I’m trying to understand the process. Could you tell me about … ?” - What have you tried before? Tell me more about why you tried that. How did you find the solution? - How did that work out? Why did you stop / continue … ? - What’s going on now? Assume that people haven’t thought deeply about the problem and that you need to probe very deep to get at their insights.
  • 9. Scheduling Interviews - Strangers >> friends - LinkedIn. Conferences. - Creative ways - go to the hospital smoking area. Go to the construction site. - Be persistent. Be honest. - Target 100, but only schedule a handful at a time. - Don’t be deterred by 1 negative feedback, but if there’s 5, consider trying another segment. - Always be refining. - Usually people get really good after 50. - DON’T SEEK TO VALIDATE. DISCOVER.
  • 10. Do Everything to Avoid Confirmation Bias In fact, bias towards questions that disprove your need.
  • 11. And Assume You Know Nothing
  • 12. Q&A