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Paul and Jesus: How much did
Paul know about the historical
           Jesus?
        The Light Project
           Session 7
         Clint Heacock
“Since the beginning of the critical era,
  the titans of biblical scholarship have
  declared that Paul struck off in his own
  idiosyncratic direction, ignorant or
  disobedient to the intentions of Jesus,
  the one he claimed to serve.”
                      Barrett, Paul: Missionary of Jesus, 11.
“One of the most remarkable features of Paul’s
   teaching is that very rarely, if at all, in his
   extensive letters, does he ever seem to
   allude specifically to any of the sayings that
   we associate with Jesus through the gospels
   or even in any of the gnostic or non-
   canonical sources.
It is as if Paul never read any of it or if he had,
   was not interested. But unless the gospel
   teachings never actually originated with
   Jesus, they must have been extant at that
   time and the absence from his letters of
   almost anything that can be attributed to
   Jesus can only be accounted for either by
   his lack of knowledge of it or his lack of
   interest.”
                           Davidson, The Gospel of Jesus, 145-6.
“In general these noted scholars as well
  as lesser-known Continental scholars
  had warm feelings about the historical
  Jesus (as they saw him) while
  regarding Paul as a misguided zealot
  who sent Christianity off in a direction
  that was far from the mind of its true
  founder.”
                       Barrett, Paul: Missionary of Jesus, 12
• Do you believe this statement is a true
  reflection of Paul, his gospel (allegedly
  by revelation) and his use (or non-use)
  of Jesus’ teachings?
• What if it were true?
• What sorts of implications might that
  have for our understanding of Paul and
  of the gospel message as set forth in
  his epistles?
The ‘historical Jesus’
• Toward the end of the 19th century many
  Continental scholars emphasized Paul’s
  isolation from Jesus.
• The teachings of the ‘historical Jesus’ (not
  necessarily the one portrayed in the
  Gospels) were claimed to be:
  – Simple
  – Attainable
  – Ethical
The ‘Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood’ emphasized the ‘real’ and
          everyday aspects of the historical Jesus.
John Everett Millais, Christ in the House of His Parents, 1850.
Historical-Critical Methods
  The Bible written by                                     The ‘historical Jesus’
 those who portrayed                                        reconstructed from
the ‘Christ of faith’ and                                    evidence to give a
  not necessarily the                                     composite picture of the
 true Jesus of history                                          ‘real Jesus’
Impact of NT Scholar W Wrede (1907)
•   No element of continuity existed
    between Jesus and Paul
•   The similarities between Jesus and
    Paul were superficial
•   The distinctions between Paul’s
    religion and his theology were false
•   Paul’s substitution of a ‘religion of
    redemption’ for the simple ethical and
    eschatological teachings of Jesus was
    a novel and dramatic departure
•   Paul = ‘the second founder of
    Christianity’ who had a stronger (but
    not necessarily better) impact upon
    Christianity than Jesus
                     S.G. Wilson, “From Jesus to Paul,” 4.
Impact of NT Scholar Bultmann
                      (1929)
•   Paul’s teachings show neither an
    interest in, nor were influenced by, the
    teachings of Jesus
•   There are similarities between the two
    (law, human sinfulness, etc) but these
    are merely verbal
•   Jesus waited for the kingdom while
    Paul proclaimed that it had arrived
•   Paul showed no interest in the how or
    what of Jesus’ life but rather in the that
    of it (theological rather than
    historical).
Pauline Epistles
      Gospels
                                     (Exalted Christ)
(The Historical Jesus)
                                      ‘Christ Jesus’




        F.F. Bruce’s conception of the different
        emphases between the Gospels and the
                    Pauline Epistles
Points to Ponder
1. Few scholars address the chronological
   closeness between Jesus and Paul
2. When Jesus came to Jerusalem, Paul had
   already been living and studying there for
   at least 10 years
3. Paul’s ‘Damascus event’ must have
   occurred not long after the crucifixion and
   resurrection of Jesus (34 AD)
4. There is little evidence to suggest Paul was
   unduly evidenced by a ‘Hellenistic religious
   context’
What exactly did Paul know about the
   historical details of Jesus’ life?
1. Paul lived in Jerusalem during the span of
   Jesus’ ministry.
2. His participation in the trial and stoning of
   Stephen, combined with his persecution of
   ‘Hebrew’ and ‘Hellenist’ Jews in Jerusalem
   must have contributed to his understanding of
   Christ.
3. After his Damascus Road experience, his
   association with Ananias and other believers in
   Damascus would have contributed to his
   knowledge of Jesus.
4. Within two years of the Damascus event he
   spent 2 weeks in Jerusalem with Peter, and
   met James the brother of Jesus (Gal. 1.18-20).
5. Paul also had a lengthy association with
   Barnabas, an early disciple in Jerusalem.
How much of Jesus’ actual teachings did Paul
  know?
• At times he will directly quote the sayings
  of Jesus (1 Cor. 11. 23-25).
• At times he will allude to the sayings of
  Jesus (1 Thess. 4.15; 1 Cor. 7. 9-11; 9.14)
• At times he will adapt Jesus’ teachings (1
  Thess. 4.1-4)
• Moreover, Paul is clearly familiar with the
  major details of Jesus’ Davidic lineage, life,
  teachings, crucifixion and resurrection
Conclusions
• Recall that when Paul wrote his letters, neither Acts
  nor the Gospels were written yet!
• Realistically, how much written material was
  actually available to Paul beyond that of oral and
  eyewitness testimonies?
• Paul’s letters do reflect an extensive global and
  sequential knowledge of Jesus’ life.
• To a significant extent his letters quote, adapt and
  echo the words of Jesus.
• Conclusion: From the evidence, there is no
  discernible ideological or theological ‘wall of
  separation’ between Paul and Jesus, but rather
  more of a ‘level ground’ between the two.

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Pauline Evangelism Session 7: Paul and the Historical Jesus

  • 1. Paul and Jesus: How much did Paul know about the historical Jesus? The Light Project Session 7 Clint Heacock
  • 2.
  • 3. “Since the beginning of the critical era, the titans of biblical scholarship have declared that Paul struck off in his own idiosyncratic direction, ignorant or disobedient to the intentions of Jesus, the one he claimed to serve.” Barrett, Paul: Missionary of Jesus, 11.
  • 4. “One of the most remarkable features of Paul’s teaching is that very rarely, if at all, in his extensive letters, does he ever seem to allude specifically to any of the sayings that we associate with Jesus through the gospels or even in any of the gnostic or non- canonical sources. It is as if Paul never read any of it or if he had, was not interested. But unless the gospel teachings never actually originated with Jesus, they must have been extant at that time and the absence from his letters of almost anything that can be attributed to Jesus can only be accounted for either by his lack of knowledge of it or his lack of interest.” Davidson, The Gospel of Jesus, 145-6.
  • 5. “In general these noted scholars as well as lesser-known Continental scholars had warm feelings about the historical Jesus (as they saw him) while regarding Paul as a misguided zealot who sent Christianity off in a direction that was far from the mind of its true founder.” Barrett, Paul: Missionary of Jesus, 12
  • 6. • Do you believe this statement is a true reflection of Paul, his gospel (allegedly by revelation) and his use (or non-use) of Jesus’ teachings? • What if it were true? • What sorts of implications might that have for our understanding of Paul and of the gospel message as set forth in his epistles?
  • 7. The ‘historical Jesus’ • Toward the end of the 19th century many Continental scholars emphasized Paul’s isolation from Jesus. • The teachings of the ‘historical Jesus’ (not necessarily the one portrayed in the Gospels) were claimed to be: – Simple – Attainable – Ethical
  • 8. The ‘Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood’ emphasized the ‘real’ and everyday aspects of the historical Jesus. John Everett Millais, Christ in the House of His Parents, 1850.
  • 9. Historical-Critical Methods The Bible written by The ‘historical Jesus’ those who portrayed reconstructed from the ‘Christ of faith’ and evidence to give a not necessarily the composite picture of the true Jesus of history ‘real Jesus’
  • 10. Impact of NT Scholar W Wrede (1907) • No element of continuity existed between Jesus and Paul • The similarities between Jesus and Paul were superficial • The distinctions between Paul’s religion and his theology were false • Paul’s substitution of a ‘religion of redemption’ for the simple ethical and eschatological teachings of Jesus was a novel and dramatic departure • Paul = ‘the second founder of Christianity’ who had a stronger (but not necessarily better) impact upon Christianity than Jesus S.G. Wilson, “From Jesus to Paul,” 4.
  • 11. Impact of NT Scholar Bultmann (1929) • Paul’s teachings show neither an interest in, nor were influenced by, the teachings of Jesus • There are similarities between the two (law, human sinfulness, etc) but these are merely verbal • Jesus waited for the kingdom while Paul proclaimed that it had arrived • Paul showed no interest in the how or what of Jesus’ life but rather in the that of it (theological rather than historical).
  • 12. Pauline Epistles Gospels (Exalted Christ) (The Historical Jesus) ‘Christ Jesus’ F.F. Bruce’s conception of the different emphases between the Gospels and the Pauline Epistles
  • 13. Points to Ponder 1. Few scholars address the chronological closeness between Jesus and Paul 2. When Jesus came to Jerusalem, Paul had already been living and studying there for at least 10 years 3. Paul’s ‘Damascus event’ must have occurred not long after the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus (34 AD) 4. There is little evidence to suggest Paul was unduly evidenced by a ‘Hellenistic religious context’
  • 14. What exactly did Paul know about the historical details of Jesus’ life?
  • 15. 1. Paul lived in Jerusalem during the span of Jesus’ ministry. 2. His participation in the trial and stoning of Stephen, combined with his persecution of ‘Hebrew’ and ‘Hellenist’ Jews in Jerusalem must have contributed to his understanding of Christ. 3. After his Damascus Road experience, his association with Ananias and other believers in Damascus would have contributed to his knowledge of Jesus. 4. Within two years of the Damascus event he spent 2 weeks in Jerusalem with Peter, and met James the brother of Jesus (Gal. 1.18-20). 5. Paul also had a lengthy association with Barnabas, an early disciple in Jerusalem.
  • 16. How much of Jesus’ actual teachings did Paul know? • At times he will directly quote the sayings of Jesus (1 Cor. 11. 23-25). • At times he will allude to the sayings of Jesus (1 Thess. 4.15; 1 Cor. 7. 9-11; 9.14) • At times he will adapt Jesus’ teachings (1 Thess. 4.1-4) • Moreover, Paul is clearly familiar with the major details of Jesus’ Davidic lineage, life, teachings, crucifixion and resurrection
  • 17. Conclusions • Recall that when Paul wrote his letters, neither Acts nor the Gospels were written yet! • Realistically, how much written material was actually available to Paul beyond that of oral and eyewitness testimonies? • Paul’s letters do reflect an extensive global and sequential knowledge of Jesus’ life. • To a significant extent his letters quote, adapt and echo the words of Jesus. • Conclusion: From the evidence, there is no discernible ideological or theological ‘wall of separation’ between Paul and Jesus, but rather more of a ‘level ground’ between the two.