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Getting the Insiders Onside
Communicating with Bloggers and Influencers
Dave Fleet – Vice President, Edelman

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Why are we here?




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Why are we here?


For years, the media environment was clear & structured.


We knew who the media influencers were. We knew where
they worked. We knew how to reach them.


Then social media came along, and the game changed.




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• 207,000
 followers

• 100-200K
 monthly visitors



                    4
• 1.1 million
  YouTube
  subscribers

• 228K
  Facebook fans


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How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.
      “The Kardashian’s once again show they are right on trend, and this is on
       (sic) Mommy’s are all going to want to follow.”




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How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.

 Step 2: Blogger sends polite response humorous blowoff.
      “And here’s a picture of Wil Wheaton collating.”




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How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.

 Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.

 Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.
      ”What a f***ing b***h!”




                                                9
How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.

 Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.

 Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.

 Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.
      “If you’ve read my blog you would know [… the importance of] public
       relations companies doing research before sending form letters to
       bloggers. […] So much so that I made that actual Wil Wheaton collating
       paper page to combat this very sort of thing in a quick and painless way.
       My blog has nothing to do with fashion, the Kardashians or pantyhose…




                                                                                   10
How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.

 Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.

 Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.

 Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.

 Step 5: Boss stands by his words.
      “…maybe you should be flattered that you are even viewed relevant
       enough to be pitched at all…”




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How Not To Work With A Blogger

 Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.

 Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.

 Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.

 Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.

 Step 5: Boss stands by his words.

 Step 6: Village burning ensues.




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Seriously.




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Lessons to Learn


 Think twice when targeting your pitches.

 Do your research before sending... or better yet, get to
  know the blogger.
 They’re not “just a blogger” – they’re influencers.

 Don’t go tit for tat with influencers.

  BONUS: “Reply All” is bad.


                We need to get better at this.


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Our Agenda


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Our Agenda




 PROBLEM: What’s wrong with blogger relations
 SOLUTION: A better model for interaction
 THE FLIP SIDE: From the blogger’s perspective
 BONUS: The Paid/Unpaid Blogger Conundrum




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What's Wrong with Blogger Relations


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How Blogger Relations Often “Works”



1. Plan calls for program or product pitches

2. Company pulls list from database

3. Manager hands list to entry-level
   person and says “pitch this”
4. Blogger gets bcc’d or unpersonalized pitch




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Problems With “The Norm”


 The most inexperienced people do the outreach

 No relationships built with the influencers

 Irrelevant pitches irritate recipients

 Standard pitch lists often out-of-date and generic

 Poor results; irritated bloggers



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Doing it Wrong




   Pitch
    Pre          Pitch   Pitch
                         Post


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Relationships
A Better Model for Interaction

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LEAF: A Better Model for Interactions


                   Listen


         Follow-
                              Engage
           up


                   Activate


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Relationships Are Key


 Know the blogger’s interests

 Know the triggers and the pain points

 Know how (and if) they like to be approached

 Know how to tailor the pitch




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Value of Relationships

            Poorly-Handled Blogger Relations




             True Relationship Value Growth




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LEAF: A New Model for Interactions


                   Listen


         Follow-
                              Engage
           up


                   Activate


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Authority

 The degree to which
  an individual is an
 accepted or trusted
source of information.




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Context

 The significance of
   the individual in
relation to the issue,
      product or
 stakeholder group.




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Engagement

                      The degree and
                     depth to which the
                    individual and their
                   audience interact with
                       one another.




Source: xkcd.com                      28
Reach

 The highest number
    of people that
reasonably could see
the content produced
  by the individual.




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Identifying the Right People




                  Reach




      Relevance           Resonance




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LEAF: A New Model for Interactions


                   Listen


         Follow-
                              Engage
           up


                   Activate


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Building Relationships


 “Hi, I’m Dave”
 Comment on posts
 Events – yours and others
 Sharing interesting news
 Conversation
 Do things that aren’t just work




                                    32
LEAF: A New Model for Interactions


                   Listen


         Follow-
                              Engage
           up


                   Activate


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Objectives

 Generate awareness     Form or change an opinion
   Product launch       Drive action
   Education            Establish or regain trust
   Influence the
                         Community or channel
    influencers
                          growth
 Establish need/want
 Create a positive
  association
 Product or service
  comparison
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Audience Selection

           Risky          Consider these too!




    Influencers /                People who
 advocates the client          really care about
   wants to reach                 your topic



                        Sweet spot



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Preparing Perfect Pitches


 Know what they write about

 Know where they live

 Remember their name

 Write to them personally

 Think about what’s in it for them

 Forget that “BCC” exists


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LEAF: A New Model for Interactions


                   Listen


         Follow-
                              Engage
           up


                   Activate


                                       37
Following-up with Bloggers

 Engage with them and their readers

    Answer questions

    Correct mis-information

    Get feedback

 Say “thank you”

 Amplify their posts

 Syndicate (with permission)

 Rinse and repeat, i.e. KEEP building a relationship, not
  just when you need it

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Investing in the Relationship
Tips for Bloggers

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Challenges for Bloggers

 Why should I bother to build a
  relationship with PR agencies?
 Who should I build relationships
  with?
 How should I go about building
  those relationships?




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Why to strive to add value


 Everyone looks good – win/win!
 People want to work with you
 Life is easier for everyone
  before/during/after campaign
 Agencies more likely promote you
  organically to other connections



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Don’t Press the Big Red Button


 Don’t waste your time trying to educate
  every agency that reaches out
 When an agency does it right, take baby
  steps to be human as well
 When an agency tries to do it right, take the
  time to begin investing in the relationship



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6 Tips for Working With Agencies


1. Be proactive if you want to receive outreach
2. Consider publishing pitching guidelines
3. Make connections in your area of interest
4. Think creatively, beyond the initial ask
5. Show the return
6. Be nice, professional, courteous even
   when things don’t go your way


                                                  43
Putting LEAF
  into Action
      (get it?)


 Set-up

 Resourcing

 Maintenance




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Questions?


             @davefleet

             dave.fleet@edelman.com




                                 45
BONUS: The Paid/Unpaid Conundrum




  “Journalists get paid to write stories. I
     have an audience too, so why
          shouldn’t I get paid?”




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Should PR Agencies Pay Bloggers?

 Remember: PR agencies don’t pay
  journalists; the outlet does

 Earned media/paid media – there’s a
  difference

 Going after money is a slippery slope

 Maybe we need a new model – of more
  than transactions (sound familiar?)
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THANK YOU!
@davefleet // dave.fleet@edelman.com

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Getting the Insiders Onside - Communicating with Bloggers and Influencers

  • 1. Getting the Insiders Onside Communicating with Bloggers and Influencers Dave Fleet – Vice President, Edelman 1
  • 2. Why are we here? 2
  • 3. Why are we here? For years, the media environment was clear & structured. We knew who the media influencers were. We knew where they worked. We knew how to reach them. Then social media came along, and the game changed. 3
  • 4. • 207,000 followers • 100-200K monthly visitors 4
  • 5. • 1.1 million YouTube subscribers • 228K Facebook fans 5
  • 6. 6
  • 7. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  “The Kardashian’s once again show they are right on trend, and this is on (sic) Mommy’s are all going to want to follow.” 7
  • 8. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  Step 2: Blogger sends polite response humorous blowoff.  “And here’s a picture of Wil Wheaton collating.” 8
  • 9. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.  Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.  ”What a f***ing b***h!” 9
  • 10. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.  Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.  Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.  “If you’ve read my blog you would know [… the importance of] public relations companies doing research before sending form letters to bloggers. […] So much so that I made that actual Wil Wheaton collating paper page to combat this very sort of thing in a quick and painless way. My blog has nothing to do with fashion, the Kardashians or pantyhose… 10
  • 11. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.  Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.  Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.  Step 5: Boss stands by his words.  “…maybe you should be flattered that you are even viewed relevant enough to be pitched at all…” 11
  • 12. How Not To Work With A Blogger  Step 1: Blogger receives irrelevant pitch.  Step 2: Blogger sends humorous blowoff.  Step 3: PR rep’s boss mis-clicks Reply All.  Step 4: Blogger is… less than impressed.  Step 5: Boss stands by his words.  Step 6: Village burning ensues. 12
  • 14. Lessons to Learn  Think twice when targeting your pitches.  Do your research before sending... or better yet, get to know the blogger.  They’re not “just a blogger” – they’re influencers.  Don’t go tit for tat with influencers.  BONUS: “Reply All” is bad. We need to get better at this. 14
  • 16. Our Agenda  PROBLEM: What’s wrong with blogger relations  SOLUTION: A better model for interaction  THE FLIP SIDE: From the blogger’s perspective  BONUS: The Paid/Unpaid Blogger Conundrum 16
  • 17. What's Wrong with Blogger Relations 17
  • 18. How Blogger Relations Often “Works” 1. Plan calls for program or product pitches 2. Company pulls list from database 3. Manager hands list to entry-level person and says “pitch this” 4. Blogger gets bcc’d or unpersonalized pitch 18
  • 19. Problems With “The Norm”  The most inexperienced people do the outreach  No relationships built with the influencers  Irrelevant pitches irritate recipients  Standard pitch lists often out-of-date and generic  Poor results; irritated bloggers 19
  • 20. Doing it Wrong Pitch Pre Pitch Pitch Post 20
  • 21. Relationships A Better Model for Interaction 21
  • 22. LEAF: A Better Model for Interactions Listen Follow- Engage up Activate 22
  • 23. Relationships Are Key  Know the blogger’s interests  Know the triggers and the pain points  Know how (and if) they like to be approached  Know how to tailor the pitch 23
  • 24. Value of Relationships Poorly-Handled Blogger Relations True Relationship Value Growth 24
  • 25. LEAF: A New Model for Interactions Listen Follow- Engage up Activate 25
  • 26. Authority The degree to which an individual is an accepted or trusted source of information. 26
  • 27. Context The significance of the individual in relation to the issue, product or stakeholder group. 27
  • 28. Engagement The degree and depth to which the individual and their audience interact with one another. Source: xkcd.com 28
  • 29. Reach The highest number of people that reasonably could see the content produced by the individual. 29
  • 30. Identifying the Right People Reach Relevance Resonance 30
  • 31. LEAF: A New Model for Interactions Listen Follow- Engage up Activate 31
  • 32. Building Relationships  “Hi, I’m Dave”  Comment on posts  Events – yours and others  Sharing interesting news  Conversation  Do things that aren’t just work 32
  • 33. LEAF: A New Model for Interactions Listen Follow- Engage up Activate 33
  • 34. Objectives  Generate awareness  Form or change an opinion  Product launch  Drive action  Education  Establish or regain trust  Influence the  Community or channel influencers growth  Establish need/want  Create a positive association  Product or service comparison 34
  • 35. Audience Selection Risky Consider these too! Influencers / People who advocates the client really care about wants to reach your topic Sweet spot 35
  • 36. Preparing Perfect Pitches  Know what they write about  Know where they live  Remember their name  Write to them personally  Think about what’s in it for them  Forget that “BCC” exists 36
  • 37. LEAF: A New Model for Interactions Listen Follow- Engage up Activate 37
  • 38. Following-up with Bloggers  Engage with them and their readers  Answer questions  Correct mis-information  Get feedback  Say “thank you”  Amplify their posts  Syndicate (with permission)  Rinse and repeat, i.e. KEEP building a relationship, not just when you need it 38
  • 39. Investing in the Relationship Tips for Bloggers 39
  • 40. Challenges for Bloggers  Why should I bother to build a relationship with PR agencies?  Who should I build relationships with?  How should I go about building those relationships? 40
  • 41. Why to strive to add value  Everyone looks good – win/win!  People want to work with you  Life is easier for everyone before/during/after campaign  Agencies more likely promote you organically to other connections 41
  • 42. Don’t Press the Big Red Button  Don’t waste your time trying to educate every agency that reaches out  When an agency does it right, take baby steps to be human as well  When an agency tries to do it right, take the time to begin investing in the relationship 42
  • 43. 6 Tips for Working With Agencies 1. Be proactive if you want to receive outreach 2. Consider publishing pitching guidelines 3. Make connections in your area of interest 4. Think creatively, beyond the initial ask 5. Show the return 6. Be nice, professional, courteous even when things don’t go your way 43
  • 44. Putting LEAF into Action (get it?)  Set-up  Resourcing  Maintenance 44
  • 45. Questions? @davefleet dave.fleet@edelman.com 45
  • 46. BONUS: The Paid/Unpaid Conundrum “Journalists get paid to write stories. I have an audience too, so why shouldn’t I get paid?” 46
  • 47. Should PR Agencies Pay Bloggers?  Remember: PR agencies don’t pay journalists; the outlet does  Earned media/paid media – there’s a difference  Going after money is a slippery slope  Maybe we need a new model – of more than transactions (sound familiar?) 47
  • 48. THANK YOU! @davefleet // dave.fleet@edelman.com 48