Hai Phong in Viet Nam and Thimphu in Bhutan are examples of cities were less than have of faecal sludge that is produced is collecetd and treated by wastewater treatment plants. To improve sanitation for an entire city, requires systemic or whole system change, This presentation explains how you start to introduce systemic change, what the components of the whole system are and an example of a urban sanitation scorecard. Presented by Erick Baetings of IRC at the Round Table Discussion on Urban Sanitation in line with ULCTS hosted by IRC on 1 July 2015 in The Hague, The Netherlands.