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Measuring Marketing Value:
Lifetime Value (LTV)
ME
=
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Lifetime Value (LTV)
Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)
TODAY
5
THEORY PRACTICE
MY JOURNEY WITH LTV-CAC
6
CAVEATS
7
 We want to be great marketers (growers)
 How to lead, even when not in leadership
 Data is important
 Our context
HOW DO WE
GROW?
8
HOW DO WE
GROW?
9
GET NEW ONES
KEEP CURRENT ONES
1
2
HOW DO WE
GROW?
10
GET NEW ONES
KEEP CURRENT ONES
1
2
LTV HELPS
WITH BOTH
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5x-9x
more costly
to acquire
new customer
vs.
retain existing
12SOURCE: https://www.helpscout.net/75-customer-service-facts-quotes-statistics/
13
It takes 12 positive interactions to
make up for one unresolved negative
experience
=
SOURCE: https://www.helpscout.net/75-customer-service-facts-quotes-statistics/
14
9%
70%
91% of unhappy
customers will not
willingly do
business with you
again.
Resolve a complaint
in the customer's
favor and they will do
business with you
again 70% of the time.
START
SOURCE: https://www.helpscout.net/75-customer-service-facts-quotes-statistics/
15
Americans tell an average of 9 people about good experiences, and tell 16
people about poor experiences.
vs.
SOURCE: https://www.helpscout.net/75-customer-service-facts-quotes-statistics/
16
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Lifetime Value (LTV)
• What’s the value that this customer brings?
• Long-term view of customers
• “Average deal size” if one-time
• How can companies with inexpensive products
justify big marketing budgets?
https://blog.kissmetrics.com/how-to-
calculate-lifetime-value/
SOURCE:
https://blog.kissmetrics.com/how-to-
calculate-lifetime-value/
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Lifetime Value (LTV)
• Simple LTV = Total revenue from client
• Traditional LTV = (Avg. gross margin) x (Customer
retention rate / (1 + Discount rate - Customer retention
rate)
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Lifetime Value (LTV)
• Simple LTV = Total revenue from client
• Traditional LTV = (Avg. gross margin) x (Customer
retention rate / (1 + Discount rate - Customer retention
rate)
• Gross margin not revenue
• Churn matters
• “Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush”
22
Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)
• (Sales + Marketing + hard costs) / number of deals
acquired
• Does *not* factor in overhead, delivery, support
(operating expenses)
23
The Magic Formula – LTV:CAC
EXAMPLE
LTV = $25,000
CAC = $6,000
LTV:CAC = 4.2
24
The Magic Formula
3 : 1 healthy
5+ : 1 leaving $ on the table
1:1 spending too much
Recover CAC in 12 months
WHAT NOW?
25
By:
• product offering
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
• acquisition channel
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
• acquisition channel
• sales person
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
• acquisition channel
• sales person
• account manager
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
• acquisition channel
• sales person
• account manager
• marketing campaign
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
By:
• product offering
• target market / vertical
• acquisition channel
• sales person
• account manager
• marketing campaign
• buyer persona
1) Know Thy Magic Formula
 Win the games you need to win
 Focus on retention strategies
 Thoughtful upsell
2) Increase LTV over time
+ Channel
+ Strategic Partnerships
+ Expectation setting early
+ Online Self-service
+ Surprise and delight
- Low Customer Satisfaction
- High Churn Rates
2) Increase LTV over time
 Know how to decrease CAC
 Get close to 5:1
 Invest
3) Trampoline your ratio
3) Trampoline your ratio
 Know how to decrease CAC
 Get close to 5:1
 Invest
5:1
1:1
3) Trampoline your ratio
5:1
1:1
 Know how to decrease CAC
 Get close to 5:1
 Invest
3) Trampoline your ratio
5:1
1:1
 Know how to decrease CAC
 Get close to 5:1
 Invest
4) Grow!
THE CUBE MODEL
GET NEW ONES1
40
CAC
LTV
1) Add more blocks with healthy unit economics
1) Add more blocks with healthy unit economics
2) In a market with lots of blocks
4) Combine CAC with sales metrics to
reverse-engineer marketing budgets
CAC = $6,000
Close rate = 33%
Qualified leads = $2,000 each
Qualification rate = 20%
Cost per lead = $400
Web conversion rate = 5%
Web traffic = $20/visitor
What channels, strategies, content can
drive leads for $400/each? $20 web
visitors?
5) Sales forecasting / quotas
CAC = $6,000
Sales Salary = $6,000
=Close one deal per month
LTV:CAC Ratio = 5:1
They ask: “Can we do XYZ?”
Because ratio is healthy: clear YES!
6) Team forecasting
Pipeline = 4 new customers
LTV = $25k
Total new value = $100k
? Staffing
? Support
? Overhead/infrastructure
7) Find more of the right clients
MY VAMPIRE MATRIX
KNOW THY
MAGIC
FORMULA
jesse@magneti.com
/in/jessemarble
/jessemarble

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