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Missing From the Conversation: 
Growth Mindset in Cultural Competency 
NAIS People of Color Conference 
Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee 
Seattle Girls’ School 
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In the Conversation: 
Key Elements of Cultural Competency 
• Value Orientation 
• Diversity as Value Added 
• Respect 
• Relationships 
• Equity 
• Thought Orientation 
• Knowledge 
• Awareness 
• Systems Thinking 
• Action Orientation 
• Consciousness Building 
• Capacity Building 
• Assessment 
• Adaptation 
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Missing From the Conversation: 
Growth Mindset 
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Growth vs. Fixed Mindset 
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Growth vs. Fixed Mindset 
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Growth vs. Fixed Mindset 
FIXED: 
• If you are a good 
person, you must be 
competent. 
• Incompetent people are 
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bad. 
• The “badness” of bias 
can be removed once 
light is brought to it. 
• Once it’s gone, it’s gone 
forever, and you will 
never make mistakes. 
GROWTH: 
• We are all on a journey, 
and competence is 
always aspirational. 
• Incompetent people just 
have not had enough 
exposure and practice. 
• We are continuing to 
undo learning that the 
world still socializes us 
to learn.
Challenges 
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Challenges 
FIXED: 
• I don’t feel safe. 
• We can have this 
conversation when we 
are truly ready. 
• If we talk about it, things 
will get worse. 
GROWTH: 
• I am uncomfortable – I 
must be learning a lot. 
• As much as we have 
much more to learn, we 
need to engage in this 
conversation. 
• Not talking about it will 
result in status quo, and 
status quo is not an 
option. 
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Obstacles 
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Obstacles 
FIXED: 
• We had that 
conversation once, 
and it was disastrous. 
• I tried to build 
relationships with 
members of that 
group, and they 
weren’t interested in 
connecting with me. 
GROWTH: 
• Mistakes in this work 
are inevitable. 
• I learned so much in 
that setback that will 
be so useful for me 
going forward. 
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Effort 
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Effort 
FIXED: 
• If this is so right, 
why is it so hard? 
• If we were meant to 
get along, this 
would be so much 
easier. 
GROWTH: 
• If I really want this, I 
have to try harder. 
• Anything worth 
doing will be 
difficult. 
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Criticism 
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Criticism 
FIXED: 
• Are you calling me a 
racist? Well, I’m not. 
• We’re a great and 
loving school. You 
are just being 
negative. 
• Things were fine until 
you brought it up. 
GROWTH: 
• Thank you for 
bringing this to my 
attention. 
• Wow, I didn’t realize 
that was a blind spot 
for me until now. 
Thank goodness now 
I know. 
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Success of Others 
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Success of Others 
FIXED: 
• Well, she may know 
about race, but she 
knows nothing about 
gender. 
• Well, there’s a lot of 
issues his point of 
view still doesn’t 
address. 
GROWTH: 
• I wonder what work 
she did to get to the 
point she is at in her 
understanding. 
• I should ask that 
person for some 
advice on how I can 
grow. 
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Long Term Impacts 
Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
Long Term Impacts 
FIXED: 
As a result, these folks 
are stuck in inaction, 
worried that they might 
give themselves away 
as incompetent. Much 
energy is spent 
intellectualizing, 
deflecting, and 
defending actions or 
points of view. 
GROWTH: 
As a result, these folks 
are always becoming 
more and more 
competent. Their 
relationships are more 
authentic and 
comfortable, they are 
resilient through rough 
patches, and they are 
eager to learn more. 
Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
Our Charge as Practitioners 
Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
Presenter 
Information 
Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee 
Outreach Specialist 
Seattle Girls’ School 
2706 S Jackson Street 
Seattle WA 98144 
(206) 805-6562 
rlee@seattlegirlsschool.org 
http://tiny.cc/rosettalee 
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Resources 
• Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman, Nurture 
Shock 
• Carol Dweck, Mindset 
• Janet E. Helms, “White Racial Identity 
Development” 
• Claude Steele, Whistling Vivaldi 
• Western Resource Center, Dismantling Racism 
• National Coalition Building Institute, Reducing 
Prejudices Workshop 
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POCC 2014 Cultural Competency and Growth Mindset

  • 1. Missing From the Conversation: Growth Mindset in Cultural Competency NAIS People of Color Conference Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee Seattle Girls’ School Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 2. In the Conversation: Key Elements of Cultural Competency • Value Orientation • Diversity as Value Added • Respect • Relationships • Equity • Thought Orientation • Knowledge • Awareness • Systems Thinking • Action Orientation • Consciousness Building • Capacity Building • Assessment • Adaptation Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 3. Missing From the Conversation: Growth Mindset Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 4. Growth vs. Fixed Mindset Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 5. Growth vs. Fixed Mindset Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 6. Growth vs. Fixed Mindset FIXED: • If you are a good person, you must be competent. • Incompetent people are Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee) bad. • The “badness” of bias can be removed once light is brought to it. • Once it’s gone, it’s gone forever, and you will never make mistakes. GROWTH: • We are all on a journey, and competence is always aspirational. • Incompetent people just have not had enough exposure and practice. • We are continuing to undo learning that the world still socializes us to learn.
  • 7. Challenges Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 8. Challenges FIXED: • I don’t feel safe. • We can have this conversation when we are truly ready. • If we talk about it, things will get worse. GROWTH: • I am uncomfortable – I must be learning a lot. • As much as we have much more to learn, we need to engage in this conversation. • Not talking about it will result in status quo, and status quo is not an option. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 9. Obstacles Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 10. Obstacles FIXED: • We had that conversation once, and it was disastrous. • I tried to build relationships with members of that group, and they weren’t interested in connecting with me. GROWTH: • Mistakes in this work are inevitable. • I learned so much in that setback that will be so useful for me going forward. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 11. Effort Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 12. Effort FIXED: • If this is so right, why is it so hard? • If we were meant to get along, this would be so much easier. GROWTH: • If I really want this, I have to try harder. • Anything worth doing will be difficult. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 13. Criticism Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 14. Criticism FIXED: • Are you calling me a racist? Well, I’m not. • We’re a great and loving school. You are just being negative. • Things were fine until you brought it up. GROWTH: • Thank you for bringing this to my attention. • Wow, I didn’t realize that was a blind spot for me until now. Thank goodness now I know. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 15. Success of Others Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 16. Success of Others FIXED: • Well, she may know about race, but she knows nothing about gender. • Well, there’s a lot of issues his point of view still doesn’t address. GROWTH: • I wonder what work she did to get to the point she is at in her understanding. • I should ask that person for some advice on how I can grow. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 17. Long Term Impacts Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 18. Long Term Impacts FIXED: As a result, these folks are stuck in inaction, worried that they might give themselves away as incompetent. Much energy is spent intellectualizing, deflecting, and defending actions or points of view. GROWTH: As a result, these folks are always becoming more and more competent. Their relationships are more authentic and comfortable, they are resilient through rough patches, and they are eager to learn more. Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 19. Our Charge as Practitioners Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 20. Presenter Information Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee Outreach Specialist Seattle Girls’ School 2706 S Jackson Street Seattle WA 98144 (206) 805-6562 rlee@seattlegirlsschool.org http://tiny.cc/rosettalee Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)
  • 21. Resources • Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman, Nurture Shock • Carol Dweck, Mindset • Janet E. Helms, “White Racial Identity Development” • Claude Steele, Whistling Vivaldi • Western Resource Center, Dismantling Racism • National Coalition Building Institute, Reducing Prejudices Workshop Rosetta Eun Ryong Lee (http://tiny.cc/rosettalee)

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