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The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions 
Liliana M. Dávalos 
Assistant Professor, Department of Ecology & Evolution 
SUNY, Stony Brook 
University of Miami 
8 April 2013
Who am I? 
• Evolutionary biologist 
• Focus on biodiversity, 
including: 
• Speciation 
• Diversification 
• Conservation
Two kinds of questions 
Biological 
diversity 
Diversificatio 
n, increase decrease Habitat loss
The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions 
• Evolution of Diversity 
• What to do when models fail 
• Right answers, wrong questions 
• Understanding habitat loss 
• A lot of cattle without much beef
Mycobacterium bovis BCG str. Pasteur 1173P2 
M. tuberculosis H37Ra 
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M. bovis AF212297 
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M. tuberculosis H37Rv 
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M. avium subsp. paratuberculosis K10 
M. avium 104 
M. vanbaalenii PYR1 
M. sp. Spyr1 
M. smegmatis str. MC2 155 
M. sp. KMS 
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Gordonia bronchialis DSM 43247 
Rhodococcus opacus B4 
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Segniliparus rotundus DSM 44985 
Bifidobacterium longum NCC2705 
B. longum DJO10A 
B. longum subsp. infantis 157F 
B. longum subsp. longum JCM 1217 
B. longum subsp. longum BBMN68 
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B. longum subsp. longum JDM301 
B. longum subsp. infantis ATCC 15697 
B. breve DSM 20213 
B. dentium Bd1 
B. dentium ATCC 27679 
B. adolescentis ATCC 15703 
B. bifidum PRL2010 
B. bifidum S17 Bifidobacterium sp. * 
Corynebacterium matruchotii ATCC 14266 
C. efficiens YS314 
C. genitalium ATCC 33030 Sca01 
C. glucuronolyticum ATCC 51866 
C. urealyticum DSM 7109 
Arthrobacter sp. FB24 
A. chlorophenolicus A6 
Kocuria rhizophila DC2201 
Micrococcus luteus NCTC 2665 
Clavibacter michiganensis subsp. michiganensis NCP 
C. michiganensis subsp. sepedonicus 
Cellulomonas flavigena DSM 20109 
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Nakamurella multipartita DSM 44233 
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Amycolatopsis mediterranei U32 
Intrasporangium calvum DSM 43043 
Kytococcus sedentarius DSM 20547 
Nocardioides sp. JS614 
Streptomyces avermitilis MA4680 
S. scabiei 87 22 
S. coelicolor A3 2 
Catenulispora acidiphila DSM 44928 
Thermobifida fusca YX 
Thermobispora bispora DSM 43833 
Thermomonospora curvata DSM 43183 
Streptosporangium roseum DSM 43021 
Micromonospora aurantiaca ATCC 27029 
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The organisms in 
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• Phylogenies must use 
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• Can morphology be 
trusted? 
Morgan  Czaplewski 2012 Evolutionary 
History of Bats 
When models fail
Hermsen  Hendricks 2008 Ann Missouri Springer et al. 2007 Syst Biol 
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When models fail
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• Homology: character 
changes reflect 
common descent 
• IID: Independent and 
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When models fail
Dávalos, Cirranello et al. 2012 Biol Rev 
When models fail
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everything 
• If rates of evolution are 
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• Results in 
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• Other signal must 
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The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions

  • 1. The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions Liliana M. Dávalos Assistant Professor, Department of Ecology & Evolution SUNY, Stony Brook University of Miami 8 April 2013
  • 2. Who am I? • Evolutionary biologist • Focus on biodiversity, including: • Speciation • Diversification • Conservation
  • 3. Two kinds of questions Biological diversity Diversificatio n, increase decrease Habitat loss
  • 4. The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions • Evolution of Diversity • What to do when models fail • Right answers, wrong questions • Understanding habitat loss • A lot of cattle without much beef
  • 5. Mycobacterium bovis BCG str. Pasteur 1173P2 M. tuberculosis H37Ra M. bovis BCG str. Tokyo 172 M. bovis AF212297 M. tuberculosis CDC1551 M. tuberculosis F11 M. tuberculosis KZN 1435 M. tuberculosis H37Rv 100 M. avium subsp. paratuberculosis K10 M. avium 104 M. vanbaalenii PYR1 M. sp. Spyr1 M. smegmatis str. MC2 155 M. sp. KMS M. sp. MCS M. sp JLS Mycobacterium sp. * 100 84 96 42 100 Nocardia farcinica IFM 10152 Gordonia bronchialis DSM 43247 Rhodococcus opacus B4 R. equi ATCC 33707 R. equi 103S Segniliparus rotundus DSM 44985 Bifidobacterium longum NCC2705 B. longum DJO10A B. longum subsp. infantis 157F B. longum subsp. longum JCM 1217 B. longum subsp. longum BBMN68 B. longum subsp. infantis ATCC 55813 B. longum subsp. longum JDM301 B. longum subsp. infantis ATCC 15697 B. breve DSM 20213 B. dentium Bd1 B. dentium ATCC 27679 B. adolescentis ATCC 15703 B. bifidum PRL2010 B. bifidum S17 Bifidobacterium sp. * Corynebacterium matruchotii ATCC 14266 C. efficiens YS314 C. genitalium ATCC 33030 Sca01 C. glucuronolyticum ATCC 51866 C. urealyticum DSM 7109 Arthrobacter sp. FB24 A. chlorophenolicus A6 Kocuria rhizophila DC2201 Micrococcus luteus NCTC 2665 Clavibacter michiganensis subsp. michiganensis NCP C. michiganensis subsp. sepedonicus Cellulomonas flavigena DSM 20109 63 63 65 55 51 70 84 74 100 Kineococcus radiotolerans SRS30216 Nakamurella multipartita DSM 44233 Saccharopolyspora erythraea NRRL 2338 Geodermatophilus obscurus DSM 43160 Amycolatopsis mediterranei U32 Intrasporangium calvum DSM 43043 Kytococcus sedentarius DSM 20547 Nocardioides sp. JS614 Streptomyces avermitilis MA4680 S. scabiei 87 22 S. coelicolor A3 2 Catenulispora acidiphila DSM 44928 Thermobifida fusca YX Thermobispora bispora DSM 43833 Thermomonospora curvata DSM 43183 Streptosporangium roseum DSM 43021 Micromonospora aurantiaca ATCC 27029 98 92 99 74 100 100 100 75 99 100 78 43 78 100 49 20 100 99 92 32 100 92 26 50 56 6 18 14 11 37 32 66 100 51 5 38 46 78 15 99 88 pathogenic Mycobacterium complex (avium-bovis-tuberculosis) non-pathogenic Mycobacterium smegmatis complex 0.1 substitution/site Evolutionary framework Corthals et al. 2012 PLoS One
  • 6. The organisms in question Phyllostomidae and relatives When models fail
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  • 10. • Baker et al. 2003 Occas Pap Mus TTU Datzmann et al. 2010 BMC Evol Biol Wetterer et al. 2000 B Am Mus Nat Hist ? When models fail
  • 11. Genome not always available • Majority of species are extinct • Fossils are all that remain • Phylogenies must use morphology • Can morphology be trusted? Morgan Czaplewski 2012 Evolutionary History of Bats When models fail
  • 12. Hermsen Hendricks 2008 Ann Missouri Springer et al. 2007 Syst Biol Bot Gard When models fail
  • 13. Assumptions of phylogeny • Homology: character changes reflect common descent • IID: Independent and Identically Distributed When models fail
  • 14. Dávalos, Cirranello et al. 2012 Biol Rev When models fail
  • 15. Saturation is not everything • If rates of evolution are high, then signal erased over time • Results in unresolved phylogeny • Other signal must emerge to resolve phylogeny When models fail Dávalos Perkins 2008 Genomics
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  • 40. • 10Kb from 7 chromosomes mt + 300 dental traits • = signal from dental traits • What makes this signal so strong? Dávalos et al. In Review Syst Biol When models fail
  • 41. 19 9.5 0 3.9 2.6 1.3 0 Molecular Morphological Frequency (percent) A Figure B Pairwise dissimilarity between characters Relative density between morphological characters 0.0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1.0 2.5 2.0 1.5 1.0 0.5 0.0 Signal is amplified by repetition • Measured dissimilarity between pairs of characters • Most sequence characters are completely dissimilar • Despite protein-coding loci • This is not the case for dental characters Dávalos et al. In Review Syst Biol When models fail
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  • 66. Models failed • Less is more when collecting certain kinds of characters • Dental data violate key assumptions of phylogenetic models • Saturation, convergence, and non-independence • = model failure • New models needed Czaplewski et al. 2003 Caldasia When models fail
  • 67. The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions • Evolution of Diversity • What to do when models fail • Right answer, wrong question • Understanding habitat loss • A lot of cattle without much beef
  • 68. MacArthur Wilson 1963 Evolution Cracraft 1983 Syst Biol Right answer, wrong question
  • 69. Equilibrium Null Model MacArthur Wilson 1963 Evolution Preston 1962 Ecology Right answer, wrong question
  • 70. Recent disequilibrium Dávalos Turvey 2012 Bones, Clones Biomes Right answer, wrong question
  • 71. Buckets of Caribbean fossils Right answer, wrong question
  • 72. Why they went extinct • Competition by other invasive bats – Koopman Williams 1951 • Cave flooding – Morgan 2001 • Interglacial floods – McFarlane Lundberg 2004 • Anthropogenic habitat destruction – Gannon et al. 2005 Right answer, wrong question
  • 73. Area change and species loss Right answer, wrong question Dávalos Russell 2012 Ecology Evolution
  • 74. R2 = 0.83 R2 = 0.85 Log of present/LGM area in the Greater Antilles í í í í í í ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● í í í í í í í ● ● ● ● ● ● Log of present/LGM area in the Bahamas Log of present/LGM species í í í í í í ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ●● í í í í Dávalos Russell 2012 Ecology Evolution Change in area ~ change in richness Right answer, wrong question
  • 76. Figure 4 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● Room for additional work Dávalos Russell 2012 Ecology Evolution Right answer, wrong question
  • 77. How to answer the right question • Equilibrium null model • Successfully explains richness • Short-term disequilibrium modeled • Real interest is not richness • But composition Drawing by A. Tejedor Right answer, wrong question
  • 78. The Right Answers to the Wrong Questions • Evolution of Diversity • What to do when models fail • Right answers, wrong questions • Understanding habitat loss • A lot of cattle without much beef
  • 79. Vaupes, Colombia 2009 Antioquia, Colombia 2010 Understanding habitat change
  • 80. Why deforestation? Geist Lambin 2002 BioScience Understanding habitat change
  • 81. World Bank Statistics 2012 Population growth over time Understanding habitat change
  • 82. An in-depth look • Guaviare from 2001-2010 • One of two large foci of Plan Colombia (the other was Putumayo) • Poor development indicators • Extractive land uses Guaviare, Colombia 2008 Understanding habitat change
  • 83. 50 45 40 35 30 2200 2000 1800 1600 1400 ● ● ● ● Forest ● ● ● ● 50 45 40 35 30 NP 40 35 30 2500 2000 1500 ● ● Pasture ● ● ● ● ● ● 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 3 2 400 350 300 250 200 150 ● 700 ● 650 600 550 500 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 50 45 40 35 30 PA (ha) D E ● 350 300 ● ● 250 200 ● ● ● 150 ● ● 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 H 14 12 10 8 6 4 2 ● 110 100 90 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 50 45 40 35 30 PLAND ENN (m) 120 115 110 105 100 95 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 PLAND 600 500 400 300 ● A B G 25 2001 2004 2007 2010 25 2001 2004 2007 2010 1 PLAND Fate of forest • Consistent year-to-year forest decline • Fragmentation indices consistent with unchecked process of conversion to pasture K L Understanding habitat change Dávalos et al. In Review Global Environ Chang
  • 84. Hamburger! (or steak) Kaimowitz et al. 2004 CIFOR Three explanations Understanding habitat change Coca Dávalos et al. 2011 Environ Sci Technol Land tenure and property Hecht 1993 BioScience
  • 85. Municipality ● ● ● Calamar El San San Jose El Retorno Calamar ● ● 6,000 90,000 60,000 4,000 2,200 2,000 1,800 30 20 A B Figure 6 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ●● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 40 30 20 30,000 60,000 90,000 Cattle Percentage land pasture ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 2,000 30 40 50 60 Percentage population urban Coca cultivation (ha) A B C Figure 4 30,000 10 Year Ranching GDP (109 pesos) Price of beef (pesos/Kg) Cattle 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 2010 1,600 Pastures with few cows Understanding habitat change Dávalos et al. In Review Global Environ Chang
  • 86. If coca were the cause • Perhaps eradication is the solution • Great because we can solve the problem of coca coca decrease Eradication Understanding habitat change
  • 87. 50 45 PLAND 40 35 2001 40 35 6000 30 D E 25 Calamar 2200 3 Retorno San 2000 2 1800 1 1600 1400 Forest lost, coca declined Understanding habitat change ● ● ● ● Forest ● ● ● ● 2001 2004 2007 2010 50 45 40 35 30 NP 4000 2500 2000 1500 ● ● Pasture ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 28 30 32 34 36 38 40 3 2 400 350 300 250 200 150 ● 400 700 ● ● ● 14 ● A B 30 2001 2004 2007 2010 25 2001 2004 2007 2010 1 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 2000 0 3000 6000 9000 Eradication previous year (ha) Coca cultivation (ha) 5 ● 5 mpio ● ● ● Dávalos et al. In Review Global Environ Chang 350 ● Coca 2010 B C
  • 88. Why did coca decline? • Each municipality started out with different amounts of coca • As the municipalities become more urban, there is less coca • At ~50% urban population there is 0 coca in the smaller municipalities Dávalos et al. In Review Global Municipality ● ● ● Calamar El Retorno San Jose ● ● 6,000 4,000 A B Figure 6 ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ●● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 40 30 20 30,000 60,000 90,000 Cattle Percentage land pasture ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● ● 2,000 30 40 50 60 Percentage population urban Coca cultivation (ha) Environ Chang Understanding habitat change
  • 89. San Jose El Retorno Calamar A B C Figure 5 2010 0.06 0.04 0.02 0.00 50 40 30 20 5 4 3 2 2000 2002 2004 2006 2008 Year Property Tax (106 pesos/capita) Construction GDP (109 pesos) Financial GDP (109 pesos) What urbanization looks like • Urban people paying more taxes that finance construction • Finance becomes important • Less dependence on ranching (and agriculture) Dávalos et al. In Review Global Environ Chang Understanding habitat change
  • 90. Urban cows! • Cows enhance claim to the land • The region is rapidly urbanizing • Per capita taxes are rising = property values are rising • Clearing the land to sell in future urban market Dávalos et al. In Review Global Environ Chang Understanding habitat change
  • 91. A disturbing development model • Development excludes coca • Not eradication • Development centered on a model of settlement that is destructive • And probably not peaceful Guaviare, Colombia 2008
  • 92. coca nothing More decrease Eradication The real drivers of habitat loss Urbanization Development Understanding habitat change becomes Pasture Cows property is
  • 93. Models and data: a dialogue • Models shape the kinds of data we collect • And how we interpret those data • Models may answer the wrong question • Data may violate model assumptions
  • 94. Thanks! • Funding • NSF–DEB • CIDER—SBU • Speciation diversification: A. Cirranello, E. Dumont, A. Russell, N. Simmons, P. Velazco • Conservation policy: A. Bejarano, A. Corthals, L. Correa, C. Romero • Dávalos Lab • Phylogenetics: S. DelSerra, A. Goldberg, O. Warsi, L. Yohe • Land use: P. Connell, M. Hall, E. Simola, G. Tudda