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Autobooks Product &
Engineering
LET’S GET BACK TO SHIPPING
Chris Spiek
Co-founded the Re-Wired Group
Formalized Jobs-to-be-Done with
Bob Moesta and Clay Christensen
Helped Facebook, Intercom,
Basecamp define product
strategy
Head of Product at Auth0
Chief Product Officer at
Autobooks
Business of Software 2013
3
Chris Spiek
Co-founded the Re-Wired Group
Formalized Jobs-to-be-Done with
Bob Moesta and Clay Christensen
Helped Facebook, Intercom,
Basecamp define product
strategy
Head of Product at Auth0
Chief Product Officer at
Autobooks
Justin Dickow Jobs-to-be-
Done practitioner since 2017
Previously Director of
Product and Head of
Engineering at The Tweddle
Group
Currently VP of Engineering
at Autobooks
6
What do small business owners hire us to do?
7
Why aren’t we hitting the bullseye?
8
We shipped the
wireframe
9
How did we build this?
10
Assigned tasks
to engineers
Fixed scope +
variable time
Estimates
11
Assigned a project
to a team.
Fixed time +
variable scope
Appetites
The Experiment Worked
12
The Experiment Worked
13
The Pile Up
• The data shows we can
quadruple sign ups with a
simple UI change
• Our underwriting process
could easily be converting
500% its current rate with a
small change
• The drop off from sign up to
active users is 95%, we could
5x activation if we just
leverage data we already
have!
14
That's a legacy API you're talking
about changing, our new policy is to
port them over to the new
framework first. Add 4 weeks to your
appetite and we'll talk.
There are 30 different integrations
where we get that data depending
on the financial institution. This
project is a minefield of corner cases
that you haven't considered.
This is easy... first we just need to
finish rebuilding our CI/CD pipelines,
move everything to a managed
Kubernetes cluster, and finally
deprecate our custom feature
flagging for Launch Darkly
The Breakdown
• High emotion interactions
• Conversations about
problems, not solutions
• Every idea is a bad idea
• We're too busy
• You have more to figure
out before we will
commit to doing that
18
We had to figure out what was going on
19
• What is everyone
working on?
• Where is all this stuff
coming from?
• What does all this stuff
add up to?
• Who is making these
decisions?
It was working when engineers could focus on
big problems
20
• Engineering has their own
projects to address deeper
technical challenges and a
growing maintenance
burden
• There's high priority
technical work coming from
every direction
It was working when engineers could focus on
big problems
21
Aaand we're
drifting back to
scrum
• Engineering has their own
projects to address deeper
technical challenges and a
growing maintenance
burden
• There's high priority
technical work coming from
every direction
We need to produce an
input that engineering
could work with in this
new reality
22
We're a different business now
How we did it
(2 steps)
1. Set the Appetite up front
24
• Product
frames the problem or
opportunity
• In v1 product shaped a
project and said "We have
a 6 week appetite for this"
• In v2 we're saying, "What
can we do in 6 weeks?"
1. Set the Appetite up front
25
How do we know what we can do in 6 weeks?
• Product
frames the problem or
opportunity
• In v1 product shaped a
project and said "We have
a 6 week appetite for this"
• In v2 we're saying, "What
can we do in 6 weeks?"
2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside
product
26
• Progress happens
synchronously
• What are all of our options that
fit this appetite?
• Query the database
• Review the code
2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside
product
27
• Progress happens
synchronously
• What are all of our options that
fit this appetite?
• Query the database
• Review the code
The output is a project that
engineering can work on
2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside
product
28
• Progress happens
synchronously
• What are all of our options that
fit this appetite?
• Query the database
• Review the code
The outcome is that product
and engineering agree on a
path forward
There is hope.
It's time to
get un-stuck
and start
shipping
again
• Not hitting the mark?
o Assign a project to a dedicated team.
Use an appetite instead of an estimates.
Use fixed time and variable scope. They
need to deliver a house.
• Not shipping?
o Sr. Engineers dedicated to shaping the
next project with the product manager.
Find a shape that fits the appetite
together.
• Reach out for help
29
I joined Autobooks as a frontend
engineer, started immediately working
on a project that would help the
company grow. We shipped on time,
and I got a mention from our CEO and
applause at the next company all
hands meeting.
Let’s connect:
Thank You!
Chris Spiek - @chriscbs
Justin Dickow - @jujodi
BoSUSA23 | Chris Spiek & Justin Dickow | Autobooks Product & Engineering

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BoSUSA23 | Chris Spiek & Justin Dickow | Autobooks Product & Engineering

  • 2. Chris Spiek Co-founded the Re-Wired Group Formalized Jobs-to-be-Done with Bob Moesta and Clay Christensen Helped Facebook, Intercom, Basecamp define product strategy Head of Product at Auth0 Chief Product Officer at Autobooks
  • 4. Chris Spiek Co-founded the Re-Wired Group Formalized Jobs-to-be-Done with Bob Moesta and Clay Christensen Helped Facebook, Intercom, Basecamp define product strategy Head of Product at Auth0 Chief Product Officer at Autobooks
  • 5. Justin Dickow Jobs-to-be- Done practitioner since 2017 Previously Director of Product and Head of Engineering at The Tweddle Group Currently VP of Engineering at Autobooks
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  • 7. What do small business owners hire us to do? 7
  • 8. Why aren’t we hitting the bullseye? 8
  • 10. How did we build this? 10
  • 11. Assigned tasks to engineers Fixed scope + variable time Estimates 11 Assigned a project to a team. Fixed time + variable scope Appetites
  • 14. The Pile Up • The data shows we can quadruple sign ups with a simple UI change • Our underwriting process could easily be converting 500% its current rate with a small change • The drop off from sign up to active users is 95%, we could 5x activation if we just leverage data we already have! 14
  • 15. That's a legacy API you're talking about changing, our new policy is to port them over to the new framework first. Add 4 weeks to your appetite and we'll talk.
  • 16. There are 30 different integrations where we get that data depending on the financial institution. This project is a minefield of corner cases that you haven't considered.
  • 17. This is easy... first we just need to finish rebuilding our CI/CD pipelines, move everything to a managed Kubernetes cluster, and finally deprecate our custom feature flagging for Launch Darkly
  • 18. The Breakdown • High emotion interactions • Conversations about problems, not solutions • Every idea is a bad idea • We're too busy • You have more to figure out before we will commit to doing that 18
  • 19. We had to figure out what was going on 19 • What is everyone working on? • Where is all this stuff coming from? • What does all this stuff add up to? • Who is making these decisions?
  • 20. It was working when engineers could focus on big problems 20 • Engineering has their own projects to address deeper technical challenges and a growing maintenance burden • There's high priority technical work coming from every direction
  • 21. It was working when engineers could focus on big problems 21 Aaand we're drifting back to scrum • Engineering has their own projects to address deeper technical challenges and a growing maintenance burden • There's high priority technical work coming from every direction
  • 22. We need to produce an input that engineering could work with in this new reality 22 We're a different business now
  • 23. How we did it (2 steps)
  • 24. 1. Set the Appetite up front 24 • Product frames the problem or opportunity • In v1 product shaped a project and said "We have a 6 week appetite for this" • In v2 we're saying, "What can we do in 6 weeks?"
  • 25. 1. Set the Appetite up front 25 How do we know what we can do in 6 weeks? • Product frames the problem or opportunity • In v1 product shaped a project and said "We have a 6 week appetite for this" • In v2 we're saying, "What can we do in 6 weeks?"
  • 26. 2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside product 26 • Progress happens synchronously • What are all of our options that fit this appetite? • Query the database • Review the code
  • 27. 2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside product 27 • Progress happens synchronously • What are all of our options that fit this appetite? • Query the database • Review the code The output is a project that engineering can work on
  • 28. 2. Dedicate a Senior Engineer to work alongside product 28 • Progress happens synchronously • What are all of our options that fit this appetite? • Query the database • Review the code The outcome is that product and engineering agree on a path forward
  • 29. There is hope. It's time to get un-stuck and start shipping again • Not hitting the mark? o Assign a project to a dedicated team. Use an appetite instead of an estimates. Use fixed time and variable scope. They need to deliver a house. • Not shipping? o Sr. Engineers dedicated to shaping the next project with the product manager. Find a shape that fits the appetite together. • Reach out for help 29
  • 30. I joined Autobooks as a frontend engineer, started immediately working on a project that would help the company grow. We shipped on time, and I got a mention from our CEO and applause at the next company all hands meeting.
  • 31. Let’s connect: Thank You! Chris Spiek - @chriscbs Justin Dickow - @jujodi